This'll stop 'em knocking...

**Ixion** · 23rd February 2006, 13:56

Originally Posted by sugilite

I live out way rural, so only get the odd johoe out here, 5 of them arrived in a car one day, they just finished passing 880 KG+ size crystals (the devils tools to them) ......
As Arafat once said, religious wars are over who has the most powerful invisible friend!

Why are crystals the devil's tools to them ?

And religious wars are not over who has the best invisible friend , they're over who has the most guns. Not many of the participants rely on the power of prayer to win battles (oddly, since if they really were doing their gods will you'd think he'd chip in whith a few thunderbolts or such like )

**Wolf** · 23rd February 2006, 14:36

Originally Posted by Ixion

(oddly, since if they really were doing their gods will you'd think he'd chip in whith a few thunderbolts or such like )

Dunno about many of them but YHVH is powerless to defeat people who use metal chariots and that's pretty much everybody these days...

Thor would be your man for a few thunderbolts but he's just as likely to throw a tanty and throw them at his own people...

As far as religious wars go, I think Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller had it right: "Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain." The combatants clearly aren't listening to their gods, why should their gods chip in even a light shower?

**sugilite:Me** · 23rd February 2006, 15:47

Originally Posted by Ixion

Why are crystals the devil's tools to them ?

To them, crystals come under the witchcraft category, not just to joho's either. I've been helping my wife sell crystals at markets for about 12 years now, and quite often we get religious types coming over and hassling us. Born again Christians being the worst offenders. These people are so ignorant and intolerant, and ironicly, good for sales! The more excitable ones seem to attract people over, who listen in and then start buying crystals lol

Agreed on religious wars, considering both sides "manual" usually has the don't kill each other clause in them.

**Patrick** · 23rd February 2006, 15:57

Originally Posted by Sniper

"Jesus may love you, but I sure as hell don't" seems to work too.

Reminded me of our fridge magnet, which was near the door and the Jehovahs could easily see...

"Jesus loves you, everyone else thinks you're a Cu#t"

They don't come round as often any more.....

**figjam** · 23rd February 2006, 17:40

My favourite for stumping them is...

If God created Eve from the rib of Adam...

Doesn't that make him the first genetic engineer and sanction cloning in the bible?

**Edbear** · 23rd February 2006, 19:16

Originally Posted by figjam

My favourite for stumping them is...

If God created Eve from the rib of Adam...

Doesn't that make him the first genetic engineer and sanction cloning in the bible?

Eve was a clone of Adam? Was sure she woulda looked a bit different with other different bits and pieces, too? She was rather complementary, different from complimentary, though she may have been that too, Adam was when he saw her...

**Wolf** · 23rd February 2006, 22:45

Originally Posted by figjam

My favourite for stumping them is...

If God created Eve from the rib of Adam...

Doesn't that make him the first genetic engineer and sanction cloning in the bible?

I actually had a Born-Again Christian turn up several times because I challenged him. Her wasn't a JW or any of the usual door-knockers, just a Born Again Fundamentalist who felt that God wanted him to knock on doors and get told to "fuck off" a lot - YHVH has some nasty ideas on "character building", I suspect.

I was in one of those "disturb me and get short shrift" moods so I told him I had no time for a religion that upholds incest as an appropriate way to begin human life on the planet - an argument that I normally reserve for people whose faith I know to be strong but that day I didn't really give a rat's arse if he went home crying in search of a good "Introduction to Buddhism" primer.

He took my arguments quite well and kept coming back for more stimulating debate (probably because debate is better than "fuck off").

We had some girls from the LDS (normally they send out their blokes but this time it was couple of young chicks) turn up just as my mates and I were about to head out and wander 'round town. They asked if we wanted to hear what they believed and I said (expecting it to put them off) "provided you listen to what we believe" and they said "sure". And listen they did, because they actually asked intelligent questions of the "as you believe such and such, how does that affect your views on so and so?" ilk. We wound up staying home, sitting out in the sun and trading view points on Life, The Universe and Everything.

Last time I actually had a proper debate with a JW, though, very quickly became more about etymology than theology because she used the term "bugger" to refer to sodomites and I pointed out that "bugger" has the connotation of sexual deviant in all respects, not just sodomy - owing to the French belief that the was not a depraved sexual act that the Bulgarians were not capable of. She did not believe me and we debated it for ages, much to the bemusement of her companion.

A week later I had a Watchtower bunged in my letterbox with "You were right about bugger" penned on the cover.

**scumdog** · 23rd February 2006, 22:54

C'mn Wolf, it IS motorbike forum!!

And BTW I worked for quite a few years at the freezing works with Jay DoubleYews and I found they were honest, trustworthy and hard working - unlike a lot of other non- JayDoubleYews
And later I had one as a boss and despite my constant contradicting of his ideology he promoted me because I was 'honest and upfront and didn't promote strife"
Cor, how did I EVER get to be a plod??