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Thread: Race Starts On a 600??? How???

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    8000+ for sure chris, you want the bike up in the power when launching it.

    Have a finger on the fornt brake lightly with the clutch just on engaging so the bike will roll forward if no brake applied. The TL used to grunt off the line and i'd be revving it around 8,500rpm reds at 10,500, i'd be tempted to be haging round the 12,000 mark on a 600, if you got wheelspin chances are you dropped the clutch too early, slip it more to gain the traction and feed the gas in with as said the front skipping the ground, you should be well accustomed to slipping the clutch nicely from you RG days?
    bruns used to sit the thing on the limiter when he started, threw a rod once though, not pretty.
    pity the stunt/drag day isn't sooner, woudl be perfect to get some practice in.
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    Been trying to figure out how to do this one on the 10
    bloody near killed myself a few times
    the front wheel just goes airborne
    cant get it to just skim
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    I think the best advise is to just relax and take it as it comes. You'll be in the pack somewhere , gaps happen and you have to take them as they appear. Match the drive everyone else has and get ready for the first corner scrap ! Don't worry about this lap time or that or trying to hit your knee on the ground, If you're any good you'll be in front at the end. G.

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    have you got access to any road racing DVDs, like IOM? (i'm sure Shaun will have 'em!!)

    Yes i'm an IOM fan, but the advantage of their starts is they go off one at a time, so you can hear & see what they each do different.

    Was watching the 05 DVD (again) the other night - launch techniques vary loads... Could be worth it if you can get hold of one...?
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    Hold Throttle at constant revs of approx 9000 RPM, Not blipping like Moto X riders

    Now just simply take off light you are at a set of traffic lights, it really is that simple! If you are coordinated enough, you can drag the back break to keep front on ground.

    I think people focus on it to much and become nervous hence the bad starts

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    Are they running dragwars tonight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDTboy
    Are they running dragwars tonight?
    http://championdragway.co.nz/

    could be the go! They are on tonight, from memory its about $30 to enter, show up at about 7pm for scrutineering pay your money, and get a few practice runs in before "racing" begins.
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    hmmm, just checking the www.dragwars.co.nz website.

    If you did go you'd want to take the k5-

    An NZDRA Sportsman Licence is the minimum requirement for vehicles that don’t have a WOF or run quicker than 11.00 seconds at Champion Dragway.

    So you'd want to practice your start for the first half or so of the track and then just back off. Because the race rules are that if you faster than 11sec you automatically 'lose' and thats it for the night - im not sure if this applies to the motorcycle class though.

    Venue Information
    * Gates open at 5.00pm. Early bird parking trackside from 5.00-7.00pm.
    * Racer entry and scrutineering from 5.30pm to 9.00pm.
    * Track opens at 6.30pm, racing till late.
    * At this point there are No EFTPOS facilities available at Champion Dragway.
    * NO ALCOHOL permitted.
    * NO FIREWORKS permitted.

    Site says its $35 to attend.

    Give me a PM if you are going to go and i'll come have a looksee
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    I may not be of any use to you, but I raced a GSXR600 last season at low club level, and got the launches pretty sorted, let the clutch go (smoothly.....not dumping it!!at 9-10,000RPM and managed too usually pass 6-8 riderts off the grid, and somehow managed a holeshot. Keep the revs up. Even launching from 10k the front didn't launch into mid air. But Im sure you got it sussed Good luck for your racing.

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    I have very little experience at taking a new bike of the line ( road bike ) but I have spent saturday after saturday , practicing launches of the line on the Cr
    I am a feet down person , anyway The clutch basket flexes underload, different clutch basket behave differently , ( cut a circle of paper put it on top of your finger and spin it , see the shape it make sort of like a chineese hat with a wave going round and round
    Soo when you get to 6 k and feed in the clutch ( I can be a bit brutal with the clutch as I can sit for a few seconds feeding the clutch in while holding the bike with the rear brake )
    Feeding the clutch plates to the rev monster , when the basket is flexing you get that juddering feeling , the stiffer the back plate the less juddering you get and the smoother ( read more controlled ) you can release the lever
    I agree with the comment about position on the grid , also gearing , and practice

    Just a though but would a cheap dirt bike , be a way of practicing ?? I remember Kenny Roberts saying at his farm they use a 100cc 2 stroke and put slick tyres on one end then just practice practice practice ( apparantly the 100 cc 2 smoke had a similar power delivery as the bike they were using at the time)

    Me I am just about too put a movie on then spend the next hour and a half on the exercise bike ,,,,,,,,(still no where near fit enough (

    good luck
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    Chris if you fuck the start up just relax and pick the other guys off one at a time you have the ability mate and remember there is a bunch of us who believe in you (actualy more envy :-) ) !!!
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    Cheers everyone,

    Thats probably my problem, too nervous... Ill do a few on the race bike tomorrow and then practice a bit more at night time on the road bike...

    Cheers, Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Smoker
    Cheers everyone,

    Thats probably my problem, too nervous... Ill do a few on the race bike tomorrow and then practice a bit more at night time on the road bike...

    Cheers, Chris
    You'll do alright mate, you gotta believe that! Practise the advice given here and it will make you perfect at starts, and try to relax and enjoy the rush of racing.

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    f#@k if i held the ZX10r at nine K and let rip the thing would
    just turn inside out! but must admit i have had a couple
    of boyracers on though,,just the fact that you can not hook up all that
    power pisses me off (a bit)
    had one ask what had been done to my bike ,
    just had a blueprint done
    he spent 30k and i shat on him
    try telling them that a stage3 turbo kit gives 300+ hp
    and only costs 3k USA he was gutted
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    Funny thing launches, I thought I had it pretty sorted 'till I was at the drags one night before the nats and some of the guys were there practising......I hold the gixxer at around nine, then nail it and use the clutch to control wheelies/wheelspin when I launch.......thought it was as quick as possible,front just skimming and all......then there's this guy on a gixx like mine, pretty stock....watch him launch....bugger me he just revved it to what sounded like 6-7000 and dropped the clutch off the line....rev, bog, go.....f**k me he runs about 1/2 a second faster than I do! Crazy, it just looks all wrong but he was farkin quick. And he tells me later he's still on the original clutch.....shit I kill one every time I go down there.....
    I tried his way a few times but I ran slower than ever......
    I guess what I'm trying to say is there's no real secret, everyone suits a different style I guess....
    Some little tricks I still use from my mx days, Keep BOTH feet down, it helps you to go straight off the line, and put yer feet as far forward as poss , again it helps keep ya straight, and as basic as it sounds lean WAAAY forward, slide yer nads up against the tank and lie on it so yer heads on/under the screen, it feels weird at first but it works, try it.
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