Tailgating

**imdying** · 20th February 2006, 14:47

Originally Posted by JWALKER

maybe need you to come down here imdying

Come down where? Christchurch? Check in the line beside my name... You realise you could have let him past quite safely on that road? I mean, if he was driving like such a pyscho, then the short straight parts on that road would've provided him plenty of time, especially if you waved him past.

Riders who are using parts of their body other than their brains for thinking often don't come home... or maybe they'll just throw their bike away on a straight bit of road at a 110km/h

Lets face it, unpredictable traffic is worth avoiding. Might be worth mentioning to your newbie mate that there's no shame in letting cars go past, especially if it means getting home in one piece

**Grahameeboy** · 20th February 2006, 14:49

Originally Posted by imdying

Come down where? Christchurch? Check in the line beside my name... You realise you could have let him past quite safely on that road? I mean, if he was driving like such a pyscho, then the short straight parts on that road would've provided him plenty of time, especially if you waved him past.

Riders who are using parts of their body other than their brains for thinking often don't come home... or maybe they'll just throw their bike away on a straight bit of road at a 110km/h

Lets face it, unpredictable traffic is worth avoiding. Might be worth mentioning to your newbie mate that there's no shame in letting cars go past, especially if it means getting home in one piece

I am still with you on this one...........too many risks taking action...

**JWALKER** · 20th February 2006, 15:24

Originally Posted by imdying

Come down where? Christchurch? Check in the line beside my name... You realise you could have let him past quite safely on that road? I mean, if he was driving like such a pyscho, then the short straight parts on that road would've provided him plenty of time, especially if you waved him past.

Riders who are using parts of their body other than their brains for thinking often don't come home... or maybe they'll just throw their bike away on a straight bit of road at a 110km/h

Lets face it, unpredictable traffic is worth avoiding. Might be worth mentioning to your newbie mate that there's no shame in letting cars go past, especially if it means getting home in one piece

my bad,didnt check your place. dont even go there about my crash, you don't have any idea what happened, you can talk to me about it when you have to make a decision about wether or not to drop a bike at 110km/h or hit a 65km/h corner at 150kmh. im not here to have a go at you man or jack your thread, all im saying is, its nerve racking for newbie with that going on and trying to get their lines right around corners. i agree with you about unpredictable traffic.
we werent riding normally, nothing dangerous and it was on the way down the hill, with no where to pass, ask sniper he was there aswell. all im saying is its a bit hard when you have newbie who has got most of their attention on getting the corners right and its only their second time coming down that hill and you have a car that drives ride up behind them so the only have a meter or two of space behind them, between their tyre and the front of this car coming into 35km/h and 25km/h corners.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th February 2006, 15:28

Out of curiousity JWALKER, how long have you been riding for?

**JWALKER** · 20th February 2006, 15:29

not long enough oam

**Grahameeboy** · 20th February 2006, 15:30

Originally Posted by JWALKER

my bad,didnt check your place. dont even go there about my crash, you don't have any idea what happened, you can talk to me about it when you have to make a decision about wether or not to drop a bike at 110km/h or hit a 65km/h corner at 150kmh. im not here to have a go at you man or jack your thread, all im saying is, its nerve racking for newbie with that going on and trying to get their lines right around corners. i agree with you about unpredictable traffic.
we werent riding normally, nothing dangerous and it was on the way down the hill, with no where to pass, ask sniper he was there aswell. all im saying is its a bit hard when you have newbie who has got most of their attention on getting the corners right and its only their second time coming down that hill and you have a car that drives ride up behind them so the only have a meter or two of space behind them, between their tyre and the front of this car coming into 35km/h and 25km/h corners.

I agree with the cagers actions.....it is how we react which is what ImDying is talking about.............maybe with Newbies we should teach them to just indicate and pull over when this sort of thing happens.....I mean we don't want Newbies to see Oldies taking matters into their own hands....

**imdying** · 20th February 2006, 15:33

My advice to you then would be for you not to take 'newbie' riders along that road, and not to teach them to think that they're bigger than they are. They're not. Bikes always come off second best against cars. You would be better off doing them a service by teaching them to let faster/idiotic drivers go past. I have travelled the road once or twice, there's is enough room for a faster vehicle to go past if you let them.

**JWALKER** · 20th February 2006, 15:33

your right, it was just annoying when your trying to help out a newbie like that and it happens, unfortunatly the part we were in, there wasnt really any room to pullover to the left on. it was road and a straight cliff on the left.

**JWALKER** · 20th February 2006, 15:36

Originally Posted by imdying

My advice to you then would be for you not to take 'newbie' riders along that road, and not to teach them to think that they're bigger than they are. They're not. Bikes always come off second best against cars. You would be better off doing them a service by teaching them to let faster/idiotic drivers go past. I have travelled the road once or twice, there's is enough room for a faster vehicle to go past if you let them.

i don't teach them to think they are bigger than they are, nor do i think that i am. well i have travelled the road a few times aswell.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th February 2006, 15:37

Originally Posted by JWALKER

not long enough oam

In years mate, how many years have you been riding for?

**JWALKER** · 20th February 2006, 15:38

started when i was 15 trailbike riding off and on, but only about two years for sportbikes, im now 25

**imdying** · 20th February 2006, 15:46

Originally Posted by JWALKER

i don't teach them to think they are bigger than they are, nor do i think that i am. well i have travelled the road a few times aswell.

Sorry, that was misleading, I recognised that when I reread it. Judging from Snipers post in that other thread, you guys dented his car? That seemingly 'invincible' attitude isn't a good trick to teach to newbies is what I mean... you're bike isn't a suit of armour, i.e. you're not as big as you think you are (yes, that sounds ooh so condescending I know, but it's not). If he sits 400m up the road (there's only one road back from Akaroa), and then follows you and intimidates you on your bike, what then? You'll probably be alright, you'll take off. Your newbie mate? What of him? If this guy hugs his rear wheel and forces him too fast through a bend, on whose conscsence is that?

Best to leave the testosterone at home, ride safely, and teach your newbie mates to do the same. Pulling over, even on that road, is always an option. If you'd waved him on, he'd have passed soon enough.

**onearmedbandit** · 20th February 2006, 15:47

Can you tell me how you choose to drop your bike in that accident. What action did you take?

**Grahameeboy** · 20th February 2006, 15:54

Originally Posted by JWALKER

started when i was 15 trailbike riding off and on, but only about two years for sportbikes, im now 25

Good on ya for taking newbies out.......I bet ya there are some more experienced riders who do not do this so you still get some brownie points.....just that us old farts have realised that 'action' is not always the way.......