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    Pssssssst.

    A Streety is only $15k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubb View Post
    Pssssssst.

    A Streety is only $15k
    It's a fucking bargain. Better than a KTM, sexier than Angelina Jolie covered in baby oil, and better than a thai massage with a happy ending.

    And it's crash hot in white.
    It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    It's a fucking bargain. Better than a KTM, sexier than Angelina Jolie covered in baby oil, and better than a thai massage with a happy ending.

    And it's crash hot in white.

    Dunno about the white, but agree with the rest

    Has to be one of the best new bike buys going, bang for buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    $25k for a Japanese litre is too much.

    $26k for an 848 is too much. I have a contact in a dealership close to head office which will do a deal for me - but I want to ride it first...
    Pfft, try again. List price for the CBR is $26 950! I seriously don't know how they come up with this pricing when people are being laid off left, right and centre in this current economic climate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farab View Post
    Pfft, try again. List price for the CBR is $26 950! I seriously don't know how they come up with this pricing when people are being laid off left, right and centre in this current economic climate.

    You just answered your own question. Exchange rates, cost of fuel, reduced demand, higher material costs etc = higher priced bike (and other stuff)

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    And a new R1 is $24K? A ZX10 even cheaper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farab View Post
    And a new R1 is $24K? A ZX10 even cheaper...
    It would depend on where they are made and when, relative exchange rates whether they have stock sitting and a heap of other variables. None of those distributors are making huge margins and neither are the shops. There certainly is a huge variance with pricing on new models at the moment though and theres some bargains like the Street Triple to be had. Personally unless something radical happens I can't see prices coming down on imported goods for a while.

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    I'm by no means saying its the dealers. But I can't help but wonder what % of the current economic climate is actually to blame for this massive increase.
    I hear what you are saying, but who is actually going to buy jap bikes at this price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farab View Post
    I'm by no means saying its the dealers. But I can't help but wonder what % of the current economic climate is actually to blame for this massive increase.
    I hear what you are saying, but who is actually going to buy jap bikes at this price?

    Yeah it's a bit of a viscious circle


    It's funny, I'm just reading a Motor Cycle Mechanics magazine that is the June 1979 issue, it's cover price is 60p (NZ$1.75 in pencil) ....what price do we pay for magazines now? In the letters pages people are complaining because bikes like GS1000 Suzuki's, Honda CBX's and Yamaha XS1100's are pricing themselves off the market at around GBP2000! There are also people questioning the need for bikes with over 100hp, whinging about the price of petrol (60p a gallon I think it was...) and the cost of insurance - it makes you realise that in some ways thing's don't change as much as you think.... lol

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    Generally Jap bikes have always been cheaper. Hence they sell truck loads of them. But in the last 5 years that has changed somewhat. Triumph has led the way and Ducati and BMW (and to a lesser extent KTM) are not that far off the Jap prices for the bread and butter models.

    Compare a 1980 BMW R100 new price against a same year Suzi GS1000

    From memory I think the Beemer was about 60% dearer.

    That would never cut the mustard now.

    26K for the Honda? It's a great bike from all accounts, but I would hate to imagine the resale value after 2 years- maybe 18K? Whereas the 848 Duc would most likely be the same as that because of grey imports.
    Things are changing alright.

    I was after a 1000S Duc last year. 26K from Haldanes or a grey import from the states for 18K on the road with less than 2000km. How are they supposed to compete with that? I asked Richard what how he copes with the likes of Emoto and others bulk grey importing 1 year old and less bikes and selling them at 30% or more under retail. He just shrugged his shoulders, and I kinda feel for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    I try to support the local shops, but as you say - a lot of time even the wholesalers won't stock the part you want. So what are you supposed to do if you shouldn't take your business to the overseas internet based companies?

    I tried to buy a Givi windscreen for my scooter - the retailer had 2 bits of bad
    I totally agree with you there mate. If their suppliers/wholesalers are rubbish then they should seek out alternative ones. Blaming official suppliers just doesn't cut the mustard these days. Everybody knows that NZ is a small place and the official distributers often have huge delays in getting parts. I know two local bike shops who have got their finger out their arse and found good alternative overseas suppliers.

    If you could jump onto your computer and find the parts then why the hell couldn't the bike shop take your phone number and do the same? Because your business was ultimately in the "too hard" basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    I totally agree with you there mate. If their suppliers/wholesalers are rubbish then they should seek out alternative ones. Blaming official suppliers just doesn't cut the mustard these days. Everybody knows that NZ is a small place and the official distributers often have huge delays in getting parts. I know two local bike shops who have got their finger out their arse and found good alternative overseas suppliers.

    If you could jump onto your computer and find the parts then why the hell couldn't the bike shop take your phone number and do the same? Because your business was ultimately in the "too hard" basket.
    Yeah, totally agree.

    Haldanes used the excuse of having to work through Australia - so I assume another layer of margin, and import / export duties etc. Plus more shipping which sucks for the environment.

    The business model that uses is 20 years out of date.
    It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farab View Post
    Pfft, try again. List price for the CBR is $26 950! I seriously don't know how they come up with this pricing when people are being laid off left, right and centre in this current economic climate.
    We've been protected from price increases for a while with our high exchange rate. $26,950 is too much coin for a Blade - in 4 years time it will be worth half that.

    I want to be able to keep the next bike for a while - I'm buying new for the first time ever - it has to tick a lot of boxes. I've owned my CBX for a LONG time (12 years?), and even Scoot, well, she's been around 4 or more years.

    This will be the last road bike that I'll be able to justify for the next ten years, and I'll keep it that long if I'm buying new.

    If dealers get fucked off because I'm investing a lot of time in the decision, it's tough, I need to get this one right (took me a year to buy Scoot, and I'm still really impressed with her).

    Out of interest, Scoot still has more mid range grunt than any of the latest thous - the ZX10R feels lethargic in comparison, and the latest GSXR1000 has heaps up top, but in the middle, where we spend most of our time, it's lacking.

    Finally - I've bought from eMoto before - the service experience is heaps better than all the other dealers (by far actually), the pricing is fair, and the safety is still there.
    It’s diametrically opposed to the sanitised existence of the Lemmings around me in the Dilbert Cartoon hell I live in; it’s life at full volume, perfect colour with high resolution and 10,000 watts of amplification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    Out of interest, Scoot still has more mid range grunt than any of the latest thous
    Yes, I also have noticed this about the K2. I wish Suzuki had made a naked bike with high seat and low footpegs, etc, with that exact same engine.

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    Wink bad bike shops

    2 come to my mind in north island,

    otorohanga honda!

    tried to sell me a 06 crf 450 with trick plasics,low hrs in mint contion,
    when i went to pic it up,he had to rob a nother bike for parts,knowing i was driving 3 hrs,you would think he would have it ready!
    then he said to go for a ride,i said no thx,its got no brakes on the back! lol.
    the plasics were gone and he was fitting others on it!
    i did the deal after grilling them,about hrs,pistons eq... all very shady !!!!
    got it home ,pulled it to bits,it was like a 10 yr old had been working on it! nut fecker and glued in place,cdi broke,with big hole in it,it was floged,rung him,told him its coming back!
    think it was brian,i got my money back off,the dodgy rep had gone to hide with the so called pro rider machinc that rode and worked it from there,(booker?)
    told brian he need to send that half wit to hurman to learn about looking after ya bike !
    never going there again!
    the shop up the rode is dodgy too! peter ... something, they try to feck you over on every deal!
    he new id driven 3,5 hrs to pic up my trade and then see him for a better deal,he tryed srewing me a extra 1000 after we had done a deal on phone,and both shops new my trader was mint!
    a out standing 02 426,my mate went there a week after me and got fecked over 1k! after deal was done too! there both shit shops and they know it!
    if you want to know who this is,fine! Nathan!

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