2 up adivse

[Maha]

ok, now that have my full i dear say that number 1 will want to jump on the back very soon. Anne has been riding 30 years both RIC and POB so she will know how to be a good pillian. Me on the other hand would a few tips as too what i should change/look out for blah blah, and how different will the bike handle etc etc........lets here it !

[Maha]

Thanks ppl i will take all that into consideration........... anything anyone has missed?? i dont think i know it all yet...............

[sAsLEX]

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[Gixxer 4 ever]

Thanks ppl i will take all that into consideration........... anything anyone has missed?? i dont think i know it all yet...............

Lack of replies. Everyone must be getting over Sundays adventure. Ok 2 up....Slow down a bit to start. It takes longer to stop and a little longer to get around stuff on the road. Corner a bit slower. You can pick up the pace as time goes on but I find if you scare the pillion it is hard to redirect a line cos they are trying to look to see what has gone wrong. Get them relaxed and they will let you ride at a good speed. You could increase the preload a bit but I ride with the same set-up 2 up as alone. It takes a bit longer to get up to speed when passing. Give a bit more lead time ( follow further back ) and increase speed as you get ready to pass. Remember the pillion coming hard up against you in a hard breaking manoeuvre is going to hurt. Plan the breaking and be gentle.

[Toast]

Not a pillion expert myself, but I'm thinking that the centre of gravity of the whole package will be moved backwards. Less weight on the front wheel will mean a slower and less effective turn-in, and you won't have/want to get the gas on as hard and early as you would without someone on the back.

Only carried a pillion twice I think, and ended up doing a runner the second time...haha. She told me off but I knew she liked it...which she confirmed later that evening

[bladez]

get your passanger to hold the tank as keeps weight of you and helps with taking off and breaking thats my only tip works for me

[Skyryder]

Best advice I can give: you've got another life in your hands, err on the side of caution.

Skyryder

[kiwifruit]

get your passanger to hold the tank as keeps weight of you and helps with taking off and breaking thats my only tip works for me

this works very well for breaking,
other than that,
slow down
be as smooth as poss
you know you have it sussed when your pillion nods off

[Smorg]

Get a tail couling so you dont have to take her

[saul]

this works very well for breaking,
other than that,
slow down
be as smooth as poss
you know you have it sussed when your pillion nods off

Yeh Jess went to sleep on the way home from P on Sunday.

[Bandit Rider]

Like everyone said, take it easy. Remember stopped and going very slow there is more weight to deal with - can take you by surprise. On the road just that much more awkward - like the difference between driving a car and a 4wd.

Probably the biggest thing is making sure the pillion understands what to do. Most important thing is staying in line with the bike (i.e. not trying to stay upright, and not trying to help you steer by leaning more than the bike). The other thing is making sure they have got something to hold onto - preferably the grab rail behind the seat.

If the pillion is confident in you they will be much more relaxed and it will be easier. It isn't smart to do anything to scare the pillion - smooth and no "hey look at me" crap.

Enjoy.

[Highlander]

slow down
be as smooth as poss
you know you have it sussed when your pillion nods off

Others have commented in previous threads that you should ride with a "Virtual Pillion" all the time.

[Toast]

Others have commented in previous threads that you should ride with a "Virtual Pillion" all the time.

Smooth is always good...but due to the massive change in weight distribution, I don't think that the above is good advice.

Better is something that I read on here one time, posted by LooseBruce if memory serves:

"In the dry, ride like it's wet (i.e. smooth), and in the wet, ride like it's dry (i.e. confidently, still gotta get that throttle on to get the bike's weight properly distributed between the front and rear)"

[Stevo]

I have my bike on standard setup as per the book. ie I am 70kgs so it is setup for that. Took my cousin for an hour long ride several months and it seemed to wallow like hell (understandably) so when my bro wanted a ride I tweaked the preload most of the way up on the rear shock. Felt pretty good but if I was travelling a long distance I would tweak the front as well as going a click or two on the compression front and rear.

Also I put my pack rack on for newbies, for my and their peace of mind.