200 + o.k who was it !!

[wkid_one]

"Give the guy a break'?, maybe a couple of broken legs so that he doesn't endanger any one else for a while. Godamn moron.
As for the LTSA ads, watch 'TopGear' and you'll see that different vehicles react differently to an impact, no two accidents are the same. As for the 5km/h difference in impact speed, reaction times and, dare I say it skill, will make more difference to the final result than whether you're travelling at 50 or 55 km/h.
Lou
Lou

So true - I did the advanced training with Ford the other day (yes yes, Fucked On Race Day jokes aside).....and it was a good eye opener as to how, even when you are expecting to be told to brake - you still have to react. All it proved to me was that - buggered if I want to have to emergency brake to that extent ever - esp if you don't know when you are going to have to.

The stats were phenomenal.....they basically said that the braking the car isn't the issue with ABS these days - it is the reaction time (or lack of it) that kills you.

1 sec reaction time at 100kph means you have travelled 30m before you even notice something is wrong.....let alone put your foot on the brake.

[dangerous]

fact that cops r actually friendly and lineal about bikers
Shawn

They want your money and thats that :sneaky2:

[jimbo600]

Have any of you seen that new speed advert on telly?

One car is going 60 (I think, may have even been 50) and the other is doing 5kms/hr more and it compares the damage when they both plow into a truck. Neither of them stopped in time to not get damage to their cars but the 5kms/hr faster one was f*cked.

I thought it was quite effective.

Yeah but if you were going 80kmh you would have passed the truck before it pulled out.

120 in a 50 = dumb. Urban areas need to be treated like a kids going to run out at any minute. Open road, then I'm the quickest guy in Wellington.

[Marknz]

Open road, then I'm the quickest guy in Wellington.

Unless there's someone on a SV650 right?

[jimbo600]

Thank feck for that... I was half expecting to read "In Wellington on Saturday morning on a silver Gixxer thou or yellow Buell", and then I'd have been getting abusive PMs from WT. But hey, Jimbo made me do it

Nothing to do with me. You quite clearly said and I quote "I'm going to kill this gixxer 1000 around the loop" And then tore up Haywards hill on the back wheel. Then I believed that you mentioned that anyone on less than a thousand is a homo.

[jimbo600]

Unless there's someone on a SV650 right?

He's nothing. Just knows the road better that's all.

[erik]

I've gotta say that 120k in a 50k zone sounds a bit over the top to me.

But you guys that are saying you never speed in a 50k zone, what exactly do you mean? Surely you don't stick to 50k's, you'd be holding up traffic as most people drive faster than that (say at 60-65k's) in many areas (Ash street is one of them).

By speeding, do you mean pushing things to the extreme or something?

And if you speed only on the open road, how can you be only putting yourself at risk when other people are using the road too? Sure the chances of a kid running out from a driveway or behind a parked car are less, but there could be a family coming around the corner in their car or something, or a farmer herding sheep or cattle, or another biker also speeding coming in the opposite direction.

It just seems you guys are making things seem too black and white for me.

[wkid_one]

Won't go faster than 55 in a 50 zone.....try to stick to 50. However I have a rather traumatic experience that keeps me at that speed in built up areas. Having been the victim.....I don't want to be the perpetrator

Don't get me wrong tho - once the speed limit hits a hundy.....all hell breaks loose (and the rear tyre then I bin it)

[dangerous]

120 in a 50 = dumb. Urban areas need to be treated like a kids going to run out at any minute. Open road, then I'm the quickest guy in Wellington.

Ohh yeh what about the dumb arse sheep thats 'going to run out at any minute'
It dosent realy matter were you are the chance is the same of it all going belly up.

[wkid_one]

Ohh yeh what about the dumb arse sheep thats 'going to run out at any minute'
It dosent realy matter were you are the chance is the same of it all going belly up.

Hmmm - it isn't about having a accident per'se - it is about what you are having the accident with. I would rather tell I farmer I killed his sheep (assuming I can) than tell a mum I killed her 2 year daughter who ran out to get a ball.

[jimbo600]

I've gotta say that 120k in a 50k zone sounds a bit over the top to me.

But you guys that are saying you never speed in a 50k zone, what exactly do you mean? Surely you don't stick to 50k's, you'd be holding up traffic as most people drive faster than that (say at 60-65k's) in many areas (Ash street is one of them).

By speeding, do you mean pushing things to the extreme or something?

And if you speed only on the open road, how can you be only putting yourself at risk when other people are using the road too? Sure the chances of a kid running out from a driveway or behind a parked car are less, but there could be a family coming around the corner in their car or something, or a farmer herding sheep or cattle, or another biker also speeding coming in the opposite direction.

It just seems you guys are making things seem too black and white for me.

I try to stick between 55 and 60 in urban areas. (Stop laughing you pricks).

On the open road if I hit traffic coming the other way then it's because they are on my side of the road. Chances are that I would have collected them anyway. I normally save the heroics for when I can see around a nice sweeper and can guarantee that the road is clear.

You can have a bit of fun on the open road and still leave room for an out if things go pearshaped.

Failing that just hold the grip WFO and pray.

[Two Smoker]

the likelihood of crashing on the open road is because of another person or the rider pushing the limits is exceeding their own..... i generally have a speed of 50-62 in a 50 k area depending on the area, ie industrial i will have a speed around 60 but in residential, its lower.

Yep 50-55 just ask KK he rides at about 45-55k and then jumps on the track or on the open road and flys.....

[dangerous]

Hmmm - it isn't about having a accident per'se - it is about what you are having the accident with. I would rather tell I farmer I killed his sheep (assuming I can) than tell a mum I killed her 2 year daughter who ran out to get a ball.

True.....Hay not to many of us would be riding if we couldent break a hundy on the open rd.
Shit I do it but these days I try to kept it at 110 when touring....but when fanging it hard (which isent that often these days frigen pigs) I could hit well over 200, but only when the time fells right

[mangell6]

The ad with the two vehicles at differents speeds is impressive, a bit daft, but gets te point across. NOW Top Gear last night had a French vehicle T-bone a vehicle at 30mph. The only protective gear that the driver was wearing was driving gloves. He was shaken and did not have a scratch on him, nothing. They opened the drivers door, he unbuckled the belt and got out.

That was impressive as was the other numerous examples of "unsafe" vehicles.

I laughed when I read that the person on the bike had turned into a no exit road.

[speedpro]

The excessiveness of the speed is determined by location and time. 70K on the NW m'way at 8am on Mon morning would be dodgy, 170K at 3:30am the same day would be sweet. 202K is well within the design parameters of certain bikes and reasonably safe in certain hands on a lot of roads. If you do a runner you need to know exactly where you are going and be real confident you're gonna make it. In a previous life I've been ticketed heaps and done a runner a few times. I still speed in the suburbs by varying amounts depending on likelihood of things like getting pinged, errant drivers, kids etc. Those ads where the kid pops out from behind the car only to get bowled by a car doing 65K or whatever make me laugh. What if the car had been doing 45K and the kid popped out 1.34s later, would that make it any better?? If the car had been doing 120K it would have been well past. The message here should be to keep alert to the signs that a kid mght be waiting to pop out, and slow down and be prepared to stop, and I don't mean slow down to 50K, I mean slow down to whatever speed is required to enable you to stop IF that kid was there. There is also a message for the parents of those kids running onto the road. What happened to teaching road sence? Where is the supervision to ensure the kids are playing safely?
Also, NOT every 50K road is teeming with kids getting ready to leap out and get run over, example being Neilson Street in Onehunga. I drive it regularly and traffic commonly does 80K (or 5.2KMH). 120K might be a bit excessive though.

I see definite evidence that the LTSA propoganda re the demon "speed" is getting through, even amongst the self-styled fast brigade. I say "get over it", unless you saw the incident in question.