Attending the New Rider's Day Out 2?? Please Vote...

[Qkchk:Me]

I've taken on board your points about SH16 Quasi, and may be looking at a more back roads route, perhaps taking a spin up Old North Road? dunno yet, will have to check it out.

Why dont you and Gremlin come out on my Thursday night rides? I take a route that would keep them off SH16 but still on quiet-moderate roads with plenty of hazards to keep them occupied. (Gravel, farming districts, the odd car, intersections etc..) These are not dangerous roads but do have plenty of situations for them to experience. (You wont learn anything by riding on the m/way..... for eg)

[Karma]

Why dont you and Gremlin come out on my Thursday night rides? I take a route that would keep them off SH16 but still on quiet-moderate roads with plenty of hazards to keep them occupied. (Gravel, farming districts, the odd car, intersections etc..) These are not dangerous roads but do have plenty of situations for them to experience. (You wont learn anything by riding on the m/way..... for eg)

Not sure about Gremlin, but I'm an evening worker... don't finish until 11:30pm so weekday rides are a gonna unfortunately.

[Ixion]

Learners and night riding don't mix. Apart from the extra difficulty and danger most of them would be on L or R licences, must be home by 10pm or they turn into pumpkins. Even if the ride is over by then, they've still got to get home.

The ride to Kaiaua was well received, don't change a formula that works.

[Back Fire]

All the while, the newbie wants to stick with the pack. AND LETS BE REALISTIC HERE, these packs wont be tight, all the rides I've been on you get left behind and if your lucky there will be someone like Weasel waiting at intersections for you.

I resent that comment!!! last coro ride we went on together me and garath did that tooooo

[SwanTiger]

I resent that comment!!! last coro ride we went on together me and garath did that tooooo

Yes you did, but because both of you are Weasel's bitches I felt it was easier to say Weasel to represent you all than it was to mention you individually.

I think Gareth just wanted to check out my arse though, so does that count?

[Qkchk:Me]

Learners and night riding don't mix.

Did I mention that they do a night ride? - NO.

My point was that if they (Gremlin or Weasel) cared to come along tomorrow night they could use the same/similar route for Sunday. Just as Quasi brought up earlier in the thread, would it be a good idea to creep along SH16 doin 70+ speeds? Where I go on the thurs night rides is off the main highway through rural areas. No way was I suggesting a night ride for the newbie ride.......... duurrrrrrr I have put together a good loop that starts @ Westgate and finishes at the Albany pub. Approx 70 - 80kms long and takes us 1hr (but for slower riders probaly 1half - 2hrs.) Do you think the newbies would be able to handle a ride to Wellsford and back? Its a fair distance for the fair-weather rider. Just my thoughts.

[Qkchk:Me]

The ride to Kaiaua was well received, don't change a formula that works.

Well if you dont want advice from an experienced rider, thats fine. I wont bother.

I'll do my thing and good luck with yours, ya gonna need it.

[Back Fire]

Did I mention that they do a night ride? - NO.

My point was that if they (Gremlin or Weasel) cared to come along tomorrow night they could use the same/similar route for Sunday. Just as Quasi brought up earlier in the thread, would it be a good idea to creep along SH16 doin 70+ speeds? Where I go on the thurs night rides is off the main highway through rural areas. No way was I suggesting a night ride for the newbie ride.......... duurrrrrrr I have put together a good loop that starts @ Westgate and finishes at the Albany pub. Approx 70 - 80kms long and takes us 1hr (but for slower riders probaly 1half - 2hrs.) Do you think the newbies would be able to handle a ride to Wellsford and back? Its a fair distance for the fair-weather rider. Just my thoughts.

They did manage that distance on the last one. Allthough it was through much quieter roads. I do think your idea is a good one though

[Qkchk:Me]

They did manage that distance on the last one. Allthough it was through much quieter roads. I do think your idea is a good one though

Yeah I did think it would be a good route but no-one wants to listen, so I think I'll be doing other things on Sunday instead.

[Madmax]

Ive been riding for a while (30 odd yrs) and am happy to ride rear anchor on any sort of group. Know the route well as I was born/Learned to ride up there and still frequent the place..You name it an I'm happy to do it..

Im in for the same kind of deal
but ill be going for a blast up the drive before i get there
to get rid of my surplus hormones first,
any one up for it?
(providing they have cleaned up all the pea gravel from
the new surface)
someone should make vests with targets on them,
one for the front of the group and one for the back.
I find the corner markers going past the learners fast seems
to scare them a little bit

[Gremlin]

OK, the route does NOT go up SH16 ALL the way to Wellsford, the road is boring as hell, too many cops, and most importantly, much too much traffic.

I posted the route in post 3 of the ride thread, but here it is again. Start at Westgate. Along 16 to Old North Rd, which we turn right into. Then Right into Peak Rd, at the end. Then Right back onto 16, and head into Kaukapakapa. From there, we will go up 16 to Wellsford. The route back is the same, but reversed.

Map: I have been trying to make one, but it is simply huge, and pasting together little maps from tumonz screenshots takes forever. I have spent hours on it already, about 240 little images, and probably only half way. Don't think I have the time to finish before this ride, but hopefully will get it done sometime for ref. I make sure at each stop that every leader knows exactly what is happening.

The route: We could have done Kaiaua again, but the problem is that doing it constantly would get the learners used to the route. I don't want this, as anyone with a local road knows, you get used to it, but your reactions are not tested with an unfamiliar route. I'm hoping to have about 3-4 routes, then cycle through them.

Thursday rides: I have early evening classes, but will see if I can get out to the one tonight (will check if there is one). I tend to not go on weekday rides after work, as I know my concentration is not up where it should be (after finding out), but will perhaps take it easy instead.

[Back Fire]

The route: We could have done Kaiaua again, but the problem is that doing it constantly would get the learners used to the route. I don't want this, as anyone with a local road knows, you get used to it, but your reactions are not tested with an unfamiliar route. I'm hoping to have about 3-4 routes, then cycle through them.

Thursday rides: I have early evening classes, but will see if I can get out to the one tonight (will check if there is one). I tend to not go on weekday rides after work, as I know my concentration is not up where it should be (after finding out), but will perhaps take it easy instead.

We could always do Cape Reinga and back....

[Phenoix]

I shall be the same as I was last time.
Dazzed and confussed
Where ever you want to put me, but if I lead, we may end up in Wellington

[MacD]

Map: I have been trying to make one, but it is simply huge, and pasting together little maps...

Here's a map from Westgate to Kaukapakapa via Old North Road and Peak Road. Once you're back on SH16 you can't really miss Wellsford.

If real life doesn't get in the way, I hope to be there with a couple of other riders, one a returnee, the other a learner. I don't mind being a Tail End Charlie for a group or similar.

[terbang]

I posted the route in post 3 of the thread, but here it is again. Start at Westgate. Along 16 to Old North Rd, which we turn right into. Then Right into Peak Rd, at the end. Then Right back onto 16, and head into Kaukapakapa. From there, we will go up 16 to Wellsford. The route back is the same, but reversed.

Yup sounds like a good route for New riders with all the challenges that can be presented for riders on an average ride. It is up to the leadership here to make the difference and keep it safe and a good learning experience along with a social day out..
Keep it up Weasel and Gremlin you are on to a winner here and you have my support..