WCC MC Parking Proposal

**bungbung** · 2nd March 2006, 12:40

A reply from Kerry herself:

Dear Ola

Thank you for your recent email, I appreciate you sharing your concerns with me.

The possibility of charging for motorcycle parking is one of a range of ideas that have been put to Councillors for consideration and possible inclusion in the Draft Annual Plan. Over the next couple of days, Councillors will decide if they want this proposal to be included in the Draft Annual Plan, and publicly consulted on, or whether they wish to discard the proposal altogether.

I will take your comments into consideration when we debate this issue.

Thanks again for writing to me.

Yours sincerely

Kerry Prendergast

MAYOR

**Blakamin** · 2nd March 2006, 16:00

Originally Posted by bungbung

A reply from Kerry herself:

[I]Dear Ola

Thank you for your recent email, I appreciate you sharing your concerns with me.

blah blah blah

Same as what I got.
I got replies from 7 councillers though, including one at 12.15 am! It's a start

**Slingshot** · 2nd March 2006, 16:40

Originally Posted by Pwalo

BTY is your R6 one of the black ones with the flame decals? One of these, 2 up, followed me up the Newlands off ramp the other evening. Looked damn nice.

Yeah...that's me.

Thanks

**Toast** · 2nd March 2006, 17:15

Originally Posted by imdying

Here's what was in my inbox this morning:

Hi
Thank you so much for your support to stop this outrageous proposal to charge motorcyclists a parking fee in Wellington. I only just picked up on it in the 1000 page report to Council's S&P committee yesterday and so I have been busy seeking your support at the 11th hr. Please tell your friends and fellow motorcyclists to speak up just as you have or we shall be on the back foot. We are already over charged for registration and double and triple charged for ACC. Keep up the pressure as if makes a difference as I go into battle on your behalf.

Cheers
Ducati owner
Bryan Pepperell
Wellington City Councillor

www.pepptalk.net

Damn Bryan, I'll vote for you if you come to Akl any day

**Bandit Rider** · 2nd March 2006, 19:49

I think they might be getting the message.

It is important that we let them know we are not happy - thanks to everyone who contributed - we need to keep up the pressure.

**What?** · 3rd March 2006, 05:18

Originally Posted by Weasel

Didn't someone mention something like this in Oz a month or two back?

Could you imagine if we all got up early and went into the CBD, each and every one of us takes a different space so that the cars can't get in.

That would be pretty sweet.

Don't know about Oz, but it happened here a few years ago when a certain council decided to get rid of all the bike parks to make way for a few extra car parks. The message got through...

**zooter** · 3rd March 2006, 12:57

In Melbourne the bikes and scooters park on the "pavement". Pavement being the paved area that's between the kerb and the buildings but somehow differentiated by common sense from the "footpath".
Your average Melbournian is pretty cvililised and the system works well. The pedestrians get where they're going, the bikes get their free parking and the available kerbside space is used for carparks.

When some Melbourne councillors decided to "tidy up the streetscape", or whatever their motivation was, and banish the bikes to paid parking, the bikers organised a "park in". 1 bike per park. Policy was reversed shortly thereafter.

Now what about applying the same pressure as what has been done with the $1/hr charging proposal to get the pavement made available for bike parking like it is in Melbourne?

There would be a hell of a lot more scooters and bikes being used for transport if you could legally leave it out of the way on the pavement. Most have nice painjobs and chrome and nicer to look at than concrete so what's the problem?

**Freakshow** · 3rd March 2006, 15:27

I have sent my letter of dis aproval and got a reply basicly dont hunt me I am the wrong person.

**Freakshow** · 3rd March 2006, 15:28

I have sent my letter of dis aproval and got a reply basicly dont hunt me I am the wrong person. I cant work out how they are going to work this crazy idea

**JohnBoy** · 3rd March 2006, 15:29

good going guys!!! good to see democracy working!! keep writing those letters!

**kickingzebra** · 3rd March 2006, 15:49

Letters Kick ass!! The pen is mightier than the sword, but is the GSXR mightier than the pen...?? (I know which one I would rather ride!)
I just sent my letter, I live in hamilton, but HCC doesn't know that, and I have ridden there this year...

**Deano** · 3rd March 2006, 18:20

Originally Posted by Velox

I don't think it is just a case of user pays. The council has a whole lot of other stuff that they're trying to promote and less traffick congestion and greenhouse gases are one of them. Making people pay taxes or getting subsidies (which is pretty much what parking money is right) is a main way that the govt influences behaviour so this all seems a bit ridiculous.

All very well - bikes cause less congestion, less pollution perhaps and a lot more economical than a car, especially when car only has one occupant. Car pooling is still probably a better option though - maybe cars with 4 occupants should park for free ? BUT - you get bugger all for free these days - why should you get a free park ?

Originally Posted by RantyDave

I am fucking paying. What do WCC think my rates are for?

And the rates argument is crock - you still pay for a car park despite paying rates.

Car park can accomodate what, 6 bikes ? Divide the car rate by 6 - is it unreasonable to pay ? If not why ?

**Deano** · 3rd March 2006, 18:25

Originally Posted by kickingzebra

Letters Kick ass!! The pen is mightier than the sword, but is the GSXR mightier than the pen...?? (I know which one I would rather ride!)
I just sent my letter, I live in hamilton, but HCC doesn't know that, and I have ridden there this year...

WCC or HCC - hope you sent it to the right Council ?

**Bandit Rider** · 3rd March 2006, 21:17

It is looking good.

Got this reply from Celia Wade-Brown (Councillor).

"Re: Vote NO to Motorcycle Parking fees - We did!

...

I agree that more sustainable transport should be encouraged. As a frequent
cyclist, I share many issues about driver inattention and surface conditions.

As I expected, most councillors, including myself, did not favour the
proposal going into the draft LTCCP.

When the draft "Long Term Council Community Plan" - (LTCCP _ Council budget
plus strategies) goes out for consultation in April/May, please have your
say on the wider issues of sustainable transport: travel demand management,
cycling, walking, public transport and more fuel efficient motorised
vehicles havinmg priority over one person one car.

..."