powercommanders

[Drunken Monkey]

You don't necessarily need to do the dyno runs, the Power Commander website has a whole range of different maps saved to file for a range of common aftermarket modifications. However, each bike and setup is different, so to get the best value for money, it would still be recommended to dyno tune it to suit your exact needs.
I have changed my muffler and had a diameter change where the muffler slips on to the exhaust,not changed the map and not noticed any difference. This isn't to say there isn't a difference, just that I haven't noticed it. Acutally, I've never ridden a stock 750Y, so I don't really know what's different.

If you like your toys and have some cash to burn, go for it.

[pritch]

Does that mean if it doesn't show improvement we can chose not to purchase it?

Can't speak for Lou, but I got the impression that he was suggesting you do a base run "as is" to see if there is a need for a Power Commander.

I just made the exact same suggestion to someone else on another thread.

[vifferman]

Would you expect better or worse fuel economy after fitting and setting one up?

Depends how you set it up.
The maps I ran on mine were leaner in some places, and richer in others. The nett result on fuel consumption wasn't readily discernible.
By the way, Gav - have you disconnected your O2 sensors yet? Unplug 'em, and stick some 330 ohm resistors between the two pins furthest away from the catch on the plugs the sensors plug into. You'll loose the horribly lean 'closed loop' mode on the EFI/ECU, and the hesitation where it changes from closed-loop to normal. It doesn't run quite as well at low revs (a bit rich) but is much more rideable overall.

[gav]

Depends how you set it up.
The maps I ran on mine were leaner in some places, and richer in others. The nett result on fuel consumption wasn't readily discernible.
By the way, Gav - have you disconnected your O2 sensors yet? Unplug 'em, and stick some 330 ohm resistors between the two pins furthest away from the catch on the plugs the sensors plug into. You'll loose the horribly lean 'closed loop' mode on the EFI/ECU, and the hesitation where it changes from closed-loop to normal. It doesn't run quite as well at low revs (a bit rich) but is much more rideable overall.

My what?

[Finn]

I can refer you to a well satisfied user with, co-incidentally, the very same bike as you.
He's got a fishy name like flipper or some such.
No that's right - Finn.
I'm sure he'd be happy to let you thrash his bike to within an inch of it's life.
Right Finn?

Owning the fastest, most powerful superbike in NZ, I can speak with some authority. The power commander is worth ever cent and is a must for any bike with an aftermarket pipe. In addition to the extra HP, the power delivery is so much smoother. But don't take my word for it, ask Fishslayer. He took my bike for a ride.

[TLDV8]

Ivans TRE eliminators things........they just plug in and improve 1/2 throttle response without affecting idle etc....cheap too for what they do...

The internals of this SATRE for my TLS cost $1.17 for a reference,the plugs can be had for around US$8 + postage...if you can solder it is well worth it to make your own,in their most simple form a TRE is nothing more than a 20c resistor.The SATRE has a transister that uses the neutral indicator light circuit to swithch on and off so the idle is not effected (fwiw)

[Grahameeboy]

I can't wait to hear the answer Grahameeboy....... but the internals of this SATRE for my TLS cost $1.17 for a reference...if you can solder it is well worth it to make your own,in their most simple form a TRE is nothing more than a 20c resistor.

Hey I am really sensible ya know but guess it is nice to be famous for something.......interesting cause over here the cost is just under $200........does your 1.70c jobbie do exactly what the $200 does....I cannot solder so where can I get this SATRE thing from and does it just plug in and where.....

[TLDV8]

Hey I am really sensible ya know but guess it is nice to be famous for something.......interesting cause over here the cost is just under $200........does your 1.70c jobbie do exactly what the $200 does....I cannot solder so where can I get this SATRE thing from and does it just plug in and where.....

This is the most popular source for TRE's if you do not want to make your own.

http://www.jsdproducts.com/

I made my own after getting the plugs off JSD in the USA ...... The JSD site will give you an idea how much the shops ream people here,your price would be a 100% mark up on what they cost to buy RRP in the States...The transistorised version i have is what the bought ones copy...The first TRE's were nothing more than 2 plugs and a resistor (20 cents off Dick Smiths)

It depends why the SV needs one..........on the TL if you give them full throttle in 2nd gear they fall on their face,the TRE gets rid of that by tricking the ECU into thinking it is in 5th gear (more ignition advance than the lower gears) since the resistor in the TRE duplicates the resistence for 5th gear.There is nothing complicated about a TRE.

[Fishy]

In addition to the extra HP, the power delivery is so much smoother. But don't take my word for it, ask Fishslayer. He took my bike for a ride.

Yep I can confirm that...... with a PC fitted it makes the bike feel super smooth and tight....like a virgin on 2 wheels!.

[Grahameeboy]

This is the most popular source for TRE's if you do not want to make your own.

http://www.jsdproducts.com/

I made my own after getting the plugs off JSD in the USA ...... The JSD site will give you an idea how much the shops ream people here,your price would be a 100% mark up on what they cost to buy RRP in the States...The transistorised version i have is what the bought ones copy...The first TRE's were nothing more than 2 plugs and a resistor (20 cents off Dick Smiths)

It depends why the SV needs one..........on the TL if you give them full throttle in 2nd gear they fall on their face,the TRE gets rid of that by tricking the ECU into thinking it is in 5th gear (more ignition advance than the lower gears) since the resistor in the TRE duplicates the resistence for 5th gear.There is nothing complicated about a TRE.

Cheers for that...: - )

[APPLE]

cheers guys 4 all the info aye?my misses rekons i cant trade up......so i says's fuck it then im gonna tweek my bike.gotta few options from bugjuice as well man,but amps sounds real good 2......cheers