New tyres in the wet

[laRIKin]

Here's one of the sites

http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html

[Posh Tourer :P]

Yeah the only ones I know are from Forest HQ off H/W 16 into motorcycle park woodhill forest, or around the back of Kuemu...

F/F

Try Anawhata Rd (off Piha Road - theres about 20km of it out to Anawhata Beach). Consistently good gravel too. Whatipu is normally more mud than gravel this time of year, but sometimes ok. Also of course many out the back of Hellensville. Also try the route from Waiwera (ie in the township) to Hellensville... about 3km of gravel, plus a few more patches. Thos are probably the best I know of. Dont know of any out east though....

[FROSTY:Me]

coorect me if Im wrong but isn't it also a case of the shiney stuff stopping the tyre from going off whilst in storage.
There is a product you can brush onto Kart tyres that makes em sticky again --Maybee that could go on new tyres to make em stickyer?

[Jackrat]

Here's one of the sites

http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html

Ahhhhhh,I always wondered what that dot was for.
But being a lazy bugger I think I will let Mt Eden do the job for me.
Still some good info' for the future.
Thanks mate.

[dangerous]

I made a frame and use a bright steel bar throught the wheel brearings.
You could use a couple of bit of 4X2 (with some nails or a V) or two chairs
and a bit of steel bar.

Shezzzz....... bloody back yard Itilian riding butchers I can suply the 4x2 & nails

ps: ohhh....the clean wheels looked ok well they did till that f/w on a 999 did a half arsed attempt at a donut in the shingle/dirt and blasted our bikes like a shot gun in the pub carpark 'I wont that pricks balls to string up'

cya DD

[laRIKin]

coorect me if Im wrong but isn't it also a case of the shiney stuff stopping the tyre from going off whilst in storage.
There is a product you can brush onto Kart tyres that makes em sticky again --Maybee that could go on new tyres to make em stickyer?

The silicone is used as a release agent and to slow down oxidization of the
rubber (going hard). Because they don't spray the mould every time, thats
why some tyres have more silicon on them than others.

I have heard of the paint on stuff but have never used it my self.
So it's still around, I heard of the stuff about 15 years ago.
But have been told that it helps with grip, but is that another pit lane lie?
Because other guys that raced against them didn't think that it did.
Your Karting mates would have a better idear, I would like to know what they
think.

[laRIKin]

Shezzzz....... bloody back yard Itilian riding butchers I can suply the 4x2 & nails

ps: ohhh....the clean wheels looked ok well they did till that f/w on a 999 did a half arsed attempt at a donut in the shingle/dirt and blasted our bikes

What was the point cleaning them, they dirty again.

Thats it I'm not useing the brakes any more.

I need teflon wheels.

[FROSTY:Me]

You'ld think that with all the money they put into tyre development, and the cost of those tyres to us, and the fact that the tyres are So critical to our safety and wellbeing, they would have got that 'slippery new tyre' thing sorted by now.
I remember reading somthing about something you wipe over your tyre to remove the 'gloss'. Don't know what it was tho. Can't of worked that good or we'ld all be doing it.

The product Im talking about makes go cart tyres sticky again after they have gone off or shiney.I've tried it to rejeuvinate a set of old slicks on a bucket racer and it make a big difference.-Perhaps it would work on new tyres.
I'm in the automotive industry and if the shiney stuff is indeed silicone based perhaps the product we use to remove silicone from paint work might help.
You rub it on with a cloth and back off with another cloth -It takes the silicone off the paint ready for repainting

[wkid_one]

Sheesh - for the sake of 100km riding - who cares. We all know now tyres are slippery - so if you fall off, more fool you.

Just ride them in

[FROSTY:Me]

I guess it'd be cool to clean up that last 25mm of tread on the tyres edge.
The bit that seems to take the logest to scrub in

[laRIKin]

Sheesh - for the sake of 100km riding - who cares. We all know now tyres are slippery - so if you fall off, more fool you.

Just ride them in

Well if you are racing, you can't wait 100 km.
And if you do fall off in the first 100 km you would wish you had.
(On or off the road)

If you had oil on your tires, do you say " forget about it, it'll wear off"?

And why not remove the problem.
Prevention is better than cure.

[laRIKin]

I guess it'd be cool to clean up that last 25mm of tread on the tyres edge.
The bit that seems to take the logest to scrub in

Yes and Yes.
Going around a corner, fully cranked over, abit more, abit more.
Knee just about down pegs close to the ground.
Bugger and opps was it that last bit of silicone, some thing on the road or me.
(as you pull your bike out of the ditch and the stone's out of your ...)

[Jackrat]

When I Worked in the steel industry we used a product called Belt grip.
I think it may of been made by CRC.We would spray it on loose drive belts when we couldn,t stop the line to make adjustments.It works very well on car fan belts and may be the thing for the outside edge of bike tyres as well.
Just remember if you do try it and end up picking bits of gravel out of your skin,,,It wasn't my idea mate.

[wkid_one]

Yes and Yes.
Going around a corner, fully cranked over, abit more, abit more.
Knee just about down pegs close to the ground.
Bugger and opps was it that last bit of silicone, some thing on the road or me.
(as you pull your bike out of the ditch and the stone's out of your ...)

25mm of chicken strips are not going to make you come off when the contact patch with the road is the size of the palm of your hand. Once you have done about 25km - the centre is clean and you can lean the bike in progressively. Every time I have had new tyres - I just go on out a normal ride with the guys - but just take the first 10-20 minutes easier.....never had a drama.

[FROSTY:Me]

When I Worked in the steel industry we used a product called Belt grip.
I think it may of been made by CRC.We would spray it on loose drive belts when we couldn,t stop the line to make adjustments.It works very well on car fan belts and may be the thing for the outside edge of bike tyres as well.
Just remember if you do try it and end up picking bits of gravel out of your skin,,,It wasn't my idea mate.

Good idea mate but um--not a good plan-the stuff is great for fan belts but not so good for tyres -I think its a kind of sticky goop.
Um from memory i used to use dry weather practice days to scrub in new sets of tyres on th track.