Who's in the right...accident question.

[Lou Girardin]

I would suggest that as you pointed out the intersection causes most of the accidents, ie the buses and trucks, which would indicate that its not just driving skills and awareness.

Drive ways can be changed even if the road can't be changed restricting access from coming across the two lanes.

By the way blaming the witnesses and garage owners was only to bring up the point that if you look hard enough you can always find some one else to blame.

You're contradicting yourself.
If the roundabout was the problem, why do the vast majority negotiate it without a problem?

[Ixion]

Sorry, being immigrant who has settled in NZ for only 7 years, may I ask who is Keith Hay?

Who is Keith Hay ??? Oh dear. You were doing so well, and now you've been and gone and done it,dropped yourself right in the shit.

But, you may still be able to recover. It's Saturday, no-one at the Immigration dept today who can prepare an urgent Removal Order.

If y' delete the post, there's a chance not too many people will have seen it, and we'll pretend it never happened. By the time Immigration catch up with you on Monday the evidence of your unfortunate solecism will be gone.

[slimjim]

mate does not matter what was happening, the lady was crossing lanes, whether he was going a bit fast or going slow, the person who was crossing into any lane must always apply the right hand rule, period, whether she could see or not, she failed to give way,:spudguita

[ChookThief]

You're contradicting yourself.
If the roundabout was the problem, why do the vast majority negotiate it without a problem?

Try reading from where I quoted from, MOTU stated that most of the accidents, buses and trucks, were caused because the round about was to small, you can't blame just driver skill some accountabilty must be held for road design.

[Marmoot]

Who is Keith Hay ??? Oh dear. You were doing so well, and now you've been and gone and done it,dropped yourself right in the shit.

But, you may still be able to recover. It's Saturday, no-one at the Immigration dept today who can prepare an urgent Removal Order.

If y' delete the post, there's a chance not too many people will have seen it, and we'll pretend it never happened. By the time Immigration catch up with you on Monday the evidence of your unfortunate solecism will be gone.

oH Well....I'll just ask the officer when they come with my removal order then......

[Motu]

Try reading from where I quoted from, MOTU stated that most of the accidents, buses and trucks, were caused because the round about was to small, you can't blame just driver skill some accountabilty must be held for road design.

''Accidents'' are caused by people,not by roads,cars,bikes or safes falling out of the sky,it's up to the drivers and riders to take the conditions into account and act accordingly...it's so easy to find someone else to blame....

[SPman]

Driving around that area quite extensively for the last few months, the main problem IS the drivers! You have to be on full alert around that area and so many drivers just dont have a clue! I had a couple of close calls around there myself...some drivers have complete tunnel vision and assume everyone will get out of their way - thats if they even see you........
At least they've finished the garage now!

[Motu]

Oh yeah,I got my forecourt back.I guess I should warn all blind sprotsbike riders not to come and see me,there is gravel all over the forecourt....those who open their eyes and see it should have no problem.(uh oh,bet the villiage idiot tells me to go out and sweep it up)

A lot of prangs,and possibly this one too are caused by ''cheaters'' - the left lane is left turn only,the right lane is gridlocked,the left completely clear....very tempting for those in a hurry....

[ChookThief]

Hey I agree that drivers being unaware or careless is the main factor causing accidents, however road design is a factor, this piece of road was not designed for high volume traffic. Well designed roads can minimise accidents, but there will always be those drivers that cause accidents due to their lack of ability/awareness.

My point was that although there is always some one at 'fault' there are also other factors to take into account.

[Motu]

Um,we've just spent 70 posts thrashing that one out - that was the whole point of me starting the thread.