Chris Carter and the environmental court

[MisterD]

Fess up who was tittilated by Carters sexuality?

Tittilated? No. Irritated by the way he wears it like a badge of his right-on-ness? Yes.

[The Stranger:Me]

absolutely no confusion about his "sexuality", as opposed to some of the brain-dead, repressed homophobes who post on this site.

And there's one for Alanis Morissette.
You are very tollerant and understanding of gays yet, the poor repressed homophobe gets it in the neck. Why don't you show more compassion for this ilk?
Are they not simply misguided and deserving of your sympathies instead of your nasty inuendo?
Hold on, is this the same inuendo you so despise in Finn's attitude toward gays?

[Lou Girardin]

I had no problem with the legalisation of homosexuality.
However, I'm shit scared they'll make it compulsory.

[MrMelon]

If he is unable to appreciate the significance of his own "gender" how on earth is he capable of deciphering the significant facts in the decision making process of "Government".

The man has obviously been borne "confused".

His latest decision demonstrates to me that he is now "completely confused". :spudbn:

Thats why his sexuality is relevant to this discussion. IMO.

Confusion seems to be an important attribute in choosing labour candidates!

I defend his right to be "confused" but I don't want confused people making confused decisions on "my behalf". :spudgrr: John.

Yeah that's right, we just need a good old fashioned fag drag to sort these trouble making queers out.

I don't have a problem with the decision he made. Surely if it was that bad there'll be a judicial review and he'll get slammed! (tee hee)

[Phurrball]

I'm not angry at all. I have ADHD. Please be more sympathetic to my postings in future.

Oh, okay - you need to receive a hug from a queer leftie in that case...

[Paul in NZ]

Funnily enough....

All I've read is a lot of name calling and socio-political posturing from both side on this subject and I'm sure there is a lot more to it.

Frankly I couldn't give a fat rats hairy arse if a bunch of selfish deluded rich bastards spent a billion dollars on a stupid get rich slowly proposal anymore than I care about a bunch of hippies loosing their swamp to play in. But after all the name calling, there has to be an actual issue to debate.

Underlining all of this is the 'traditional' rights of the average Kiwi to enjoy access to more of natures bounty than in most other countries. I'm sure it's terribly irksome not to have a marina at the town but if it was yet another erosion of this right, it may just be a good thing it stopped.

Funnily enough, when a developer tells me, "it will be good for the local economy" I tend to believe that the local economy they are refering to is VERY local... To their own off shore bank account.

I'm also a little curious when people tell me.. "it's impossible to get things done" - Like what? Not allowed to kill your own serfs anymore?

Mr Carter could disappear in a poof of smoke for all I care and may well be an utter moron BUT... He may also be a moron with a valid point and I'd like to know what that is before getting to venomous.

[Finn]

Oh, okay - you need to receive a hug from a queer leftie in that case...

NEVER, EVER attempt to hug someone with ADHD. Especially someone high on the spectrum like myself. Haven't you seen Something About Mary?

[Paul in NZ]

I had no problem with the legalisation of homosexuality.
However, I'm shit scared they'll make it compulsory.

Nah.. Ugly old coot like you should be safe enough Lou.. Now a good lookin' stud like me.....

[Finn]

Funnily enough....

All I've read is a lot of name calling and socio-political posturing from both side on this subject and I'm sure there is a lot more to it.

Frankly I couldn't give a fat rats hairy arse if a bunch of selfish deluded rich bastards spent a billion dollars on a stupid get rich slowly proposal anymore than I care about a bunch of hippies loosing their swamp to play in. But after all the name calling, there has to be an actual issue to debate.

Underlining all of this is the 'traditional' rights of the average Kiwi to enjoy access to more of natures bounty than in most other countries. I'm sure it's terribly irksome not to have a marina at the town but if it was yet another erosion of this right, it may just be a good thing it stopped.

Funnily enough, when a developer tells me, "it will be good for the local economy" I tend to believe that the local economy they are refering to is VERY local... To their own off shore bank account.

I'm also a little curious when people tell me.. "it's impossible to get things done" - Like what? Not allowed to kill your own serfs anymore?

Mr Carter could disappear in a poof of smoke for all I care and may well be an utter moron BUT... He may also be a moron with a valid point and I'd like to know what that is before getting to venomous.

Paul, this has got nothing to do with the marina, environment, surfers or developers. It's about politics. At the 11th hour, the Utu tribe spent a couple of hours with The Right Homo Carter and the deal was done. No money changed hands but we paid something far worse

[Paul in NZ]

Paul, this has got nothing to do with the marina, environment, surfers or developers. It's about politics. At the 11th hour, the Utu tribe spent a couple of hours with The Right Homo Carter and the deal was done. No money changed hands but we paid something far worse

Yes, agreed but I'd like to hear him explain it (and take responsibility for that decision as well)..........

I visited a marina north of Auckland with Vicki on one of our holidays. The facilities were great and the people there were really nice to us, let us park our car in a safe place and kept an eye on it while we went out in our kayaks. Even offered us a shower afterwards so it could be a good thing.

I

[oldrider]

When I was a boy we were ruled by "Christian" influenced politics. Not a good look.

Gradually we got loose from that iron grip, I don't want to go back there.(Destiny Church will take you there)

When I was at sea Homosexuals were closeted ashore and almost the whole of the catering crew on ships were homosexuals, "outed at sea".

They were like people without a country, it was rather sad to hear their stories.

The most common cry was that they would love to live ashore as normal people.

I subscribed to the fact that they should be free, allowed to choose to live their lives as they desire as long as they are within the law.

The pendulum has swung too far as far as I am concerned.

We have got rid of the Christians influence and replaced them with the "confused". (For the want of a better term)

Now we have got the confused dispossessed people without a country coming ashore and "making laws or rules for us who invited them home"!!!

That is what pisses me off I am not Homophobic.

I just don't want confused people taking the high ground and making confused laws, rules and decisions on my behalf.

I think I would rather go back with the bloody narrow minded bigoted Christians.

Carter may have been democratically elected to parliament but he was appointed as a minister of the crown by another one of his own ilk.

They have not just come ashore to "live" they have come ashore to "rule".

I don't want to be ruled by them!!! (Rant completed but not over) John.

[idb]

They were like people without a country, it was rather sad to hear their stories.

The most common cry was that they would love to live ashore as normal people.

I subscribed to the fact that they should be free, allowed to choose to live their lives as they desire as long as they are within the law.

Hang on!
Doesn't living as 'normal' people include being represented in all levels of society, including parliament?

[SPman]

There's far too much wealth re-distribution going on already, so sorry but

Most of it to the Eastern bays in Auckland........

[SPman]

uh uh , the NZ Commie Government migjht be heading for an ideological split. Over matters of paramount importance, , about which there can be no comprimise. The KiwiBike *will* be a two stroke, of course?

As long as its at least a 4 cylinder (six would be nice) and doesnt put out less than 150 hp right across the rev range in a package weighing in at about 150KG.................

[Phurrball]

NEVER, EVER attempt to hug someone with ADHD. Especially someone high on the spectrum like myself. Haven't you seen Something About Mary?

No, and I am not attempting to hug (I do not fit the stated criteria), I am suggesting a hug. You could always auto-hug I suppose - though it sounds like even that may have consequences in your case. Take thy mellowness pills perhaps. You wouldn't like it if the Hon. C.Carter prefaced every statement he made about ADHD disordered people with and insult now and implied it made them unfit for their duties in some way wouldya now...