Let us know how you get on as my information is three years old. I can't afford two bucks a minute average call 15 mins.Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
Nana
Let us know how you get on as my information is three years old. I can't afford two bucks a minute average call 15 mins.
Workin' Socially!
I didn't actually use the *555 b/c I didn't know it existed until I called the local Police Station in Wgtn, glad I didn't if it costs that much.Let us know how you get on as my information is three years old. I can't afford two bucks a minute average call 15 mins.They're sending me out forms to fill out as well.
My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
Nana
If it is so urgent that it can't wait till I get home I use 111. The operator doesn't mind unless they already have a crisis.I didn't actually use the *555 b/c I didn't know it existed until I called the local Police Station in Wgtn, glad I didn't if it costs that much.
Immature and proud of it.
A recent survey of public confidence in the Police showed that 66% of those surveyed have confidence in them.
This is the lowest rating I've seen, even lower than after the '81 Springbok tour.
Instead of the police hierachy congratulating themselves, they should be very worried. They might realise somethings wrong when it reaches 30%.
Coincidentily, the 33% that have no confidence in our Police is almost the exact number of people that received speeding tickets last year.
Salted Pork
So it must be the same 33% that keep getting the same speeding tickets every year, bloody slow learners aren't they.
Rest In Peace
Dont tell me you believe what is written in the papers , or on the news , they should title it as based on true stories ( about 10% ).Well the evil ones are in the papers at present so that is obviously the opposite of totally wrong.
No I dont think it is a large proportion. But I do know people who have left due to the culture.
As far as misguided; a friend who was looking at joining went on observation. They pulled over & breath tested & failed a driver. OK good job I applaud.
But when back at the station they were not near over the limit when tested there, they let her go with a warning. The breath wand thingies get contaminated or uncalibrated apparently.
So friend says So we get a new breath test thingy?
Why? Was the response.
Hardcore Biker
Well I have virtually no respect for the police. They have never helped me, only fleeced me out of money. I too hate Wellington drivers who run red lights as I was hit by one but he is still on the road, hasnt been to court, infact the police dont even know where he lives now. That was over 6 monthes ago. And now my mate has a very similar accident and the culpret is going to court less than a month later. I have repeatably naggeg the police in welly but they have done nothing. It's like when I do somthing bad they come down on me with full force but I somthing happens to me its too bad.
OK, so who's next?
I don't have a lot of faith in our police either,they seem to be profit rather than 'serve and protect'driven nowadays.......
I'm sure it's been said a million times,but it still amuses me,is how come you get burgled ect and it's 'come in and fill out a form and we'll see if we can get someone there in a few days' and yet when a car crashes there's 6 copcars all turn up in 5 mins?
L-Plate Rider
Why does this amaze you, try using logic.... come you get burgled ect and it's 'come in and fill out a form and we'll see if we can get someone there in a few days' and yet when a car crashes there's 6 copcars all turn up in 5 mins?
What difference does it really make once a burglar has long left the scene what time it is fingerprinted? If a burglar is still inside or theres a remote chance of catching him by doing areas then Police attend immediately.
What difference does it make when a car has crashed and people are injured/killed that Police do attend immediately? Ie to help the injured, preserve the scene and ensure that theres not a 20kmh long traffic jam.
The dumbarses who bitch about getting speeding tickets need to realise that its not the Police who set the speed limits. Do you expect Police not to enforce the law in this regard? or just not to apply it when its you speeding...
If you have a problem with getting speeding tickets complain to the Government or the LTSA.
How many of those bitching about the Police would be able to do the job themselves? aside from not being mentally tough enough i doubt any of the whiners could even pass the entry academic tests let alone the physical ones.
Forum whore
BS - the first time we got burgled I got home just as the burglars were leaving. I rang the cops on my cellphone and got the normal "send a cop round in a few days and don't touch anything in the meantime" speech.
The next time was our car getting broken into - I heard the glass breaking and rang straight away. Got "no units available".
And that is what we are whining about. It is alright for Joe Average and his family to be put at risk. If I'd sconed one of the burglars with a softball bat the police would have jailed me for aggravated assault and I was warned about that over the phone by the 111 dispatcher.
Most of the reasonable people here have no issue with getting a speeding ticket. Its unpleasant but its your own silly fault. We do object to our own property being regarded as "optional belongings" as far as the police are concerned though. The police don't do a good job in this regard and add Government policy on speeding to the mix and you have a Government agency that is in a no win position in the PR stakes.
Just don't try and stick up for them when there is documented evidence to contrary.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
L-Plate Rider
In that situation someone screwed up, either you or the person taking the call. Every single time there is a burglars on situation like that, every available unit will be sent to the job including all the dog units etc. And car thieves are treated the exact same way, every available car will race to the scene. If there are no units available thats the governments fault for under-resourcing the Police.
Getting pissed off at the Police is just stupid, if its that busy Police will be racing from job to job, an entire 10 hour shift without any meal or toilet breaks and probably a couple of hours unpaid overtime at the end to catch-up on the paper work.
If your complaining about to many resources being allocated to traffic enforcement thats also the Governments deal, they contract out road enforcement to Police and in return Police have to deliver on certain 'targets' set by the Government. Mind you they can probably compare the 463 people killed on the road each year to the amount killed by burglars and say that resources are allocated correctly.
It kinda sucks, but average joe and his family are more at risk every time they get in the car than they are from burglars and other crims and i guess thats why the gov allocates resources as it does.
Forum whore
O boohoo - is it any different for the rest of us? How come they get an excuse for not meeting performance criteria? So who should I get "pissed off" at then?
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
L-Plate Rider
Jim in the course of your day at work...
Do you undergo the risk of being stabbed/beaten/shot and even killed everyday you go to work?
Do you have to face down Mongrel Mob Members armed only with a small canister of pepper spray?
Do you have to go to the scenes of suicides and sudden deaths dealing with the grieving family and removing (or picking up the peices) of the body?
Do you have to deal with the aftermath of fatal traffic accidents in which bodys literally disintegrate on impact?
Do you spend your day at work being constantly abused by 95% of the people you deal with?
Do you spend your day constantly dealing with the aftermath of crime and its victims?
Are you expected to work public holidays for no extra pay and do a nightshift that starts at 10pm and can run through to 1pm the next day if its busy and you have to get the paperwork finished from the shift (sacrificing 6 hours of your own time that you don't get paid for.)
And do you then have the people you supposedly serve overlook all this and abuse you because you didn't let them get off a speeding ticket they deserve?
What DO you do for a living Jim?
Forum whore
They were aware of the risks when they signed up. So you reckon one person's stress is lesser or greater than another's do you? Care to measure that? I would say that a policeman's chance of being killed on the job is less than a linesman, or a truck driver, or an Ag pilot. I don't get paid for overtime - who does? What the hell is a break? I get the privilege of going on call 1 week in 3 on a 24x7 basis. I get cut no slack for normal work hours and often go for days with no more than 2 hours sleep here and there. Slep deprivation is the biggest weapon in the torturers toolbag, so by definition my employer tortures me 1 week in 3. I get an allowance for it though. 10% of my hourly rate for the time I am on call.
So the police are more noble than everyone else are they? I'd say the majority of police folk are fairly normal people who want to make a difference. That doesn't make them better, than say my wife who is a nurse and gets paid less than a McDonalds worker per hour, and she is half way through a Master of Nursing degree, and has worked in neo-natal intensive care and paediatrics her whole working career. She's been attacked by Black Power & Mob members, hit by drunks, and parents whacked out on drugs, and assaulted by mentally unstable individuals. And she's obviously in your world of less worth than a policeman. As am I. Or all the other people on this site who aren't policemen/women who subscribe to this site, but work their arses off to make a contribution to a society that the police are supposed to serve.
You've ignored my issue utterly. We grow up being taught to call the police when you or your property are threatened. They don't respond to those calls in a timely fashion, if at all. You've just displayed the kind of hyperbole that most politicians display when challenged about the role of police in our society. The standard response is that most police are attempting to do the best job possible (true) with limited resources (true). Therefore anyone who complains about not being protected by them is a whining dissident scumbag, with obvious anti-social tendencies. Your defence is hollow and based on the premise that we should accept the fact that the police are understaffed and under financed and therefore should only perform traffic duties becasue so many people die on the roads. I don't buy it. Neither do I buy the argument that a policemen's lot is so horrific we should excuse anything that could be regarded as dereliction of duty.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
L-Plate Rider
Sorry if you chose to interupt it that way, my point was that your getting angry at the WRONG people. Do you really think Police undergo all those stresses and pressures if they did'nt actually give a crap about people & property, about catching burglars, car thieves and rapists? The only real upsides to the job are the occassions when you catch and lock away criminals.
See above, when persons or property are threatened any available unit (including traffic units) will attend immediately. Jobs involving threats to persons/property are always given priority one status, if Police can't attend immediately its a matter of resources which the cop whose tied up at a domestic while you car is getting broken into has no say over at all (he will probably be just as angry as you).
Err you kind of shot yourself in the foot here. Complaining about the lack of resources for Police is valid, blaming Police (like your doing)for the lack of resources is not. The government controls what resources Police get and where they go. Or do you actually think Police chose to be overworked and understaffed?
Maybe you should just rewrite my posts into what you want them to read entirely?
Not once did i claim this, all i said was probably the reason the government does allocate the proportion of resources into traffic that it does, is the fact that so many people each year die on the roads. It really comes down to the argument whether or not attempting to reduce the 463 or so people who die each year on the roads is as important as Police attending your Burglary which occured while you were at work immediately. Again thou the Police don't really have much say over this anyway, the Government contracts Traffic to the Police who then have to do a certain amount of road policing hours.
And neither do I, whats your point?
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