Sally Simpson (kiwi rider)

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=Oscar]

You preeeck..

I'm surprised that you can recall my face, since you spend so much time looking at the back of my helmet disappearing into the distance...

1 all - halftime.

I've never had a concussion riding.

I've left Otara basketball stadium in disneyland once lately. Matched up on a 6'7" 130kg islander with a seriously hard noggin' and elbows.

Apparently I schooled 'im - but I have little recall - 'Kusbain' they call it.

[Lou Girardin]

Hey Lou, you what talking about? I'm am a dirty ryder to and ther'ye nufink rong wiff me. Go fuck me!

That gender crisis thing happening again?

[Pixie]

... bit like motul from this site.

Who's motul?
I'm new here.
Is he one of the oily members?

[Lou Girardin]

Who's motul?
I'm new here.
Is he one of the oily members?

He's always well lubricated and slurs his typing.

[Pixie]

I meant oily, as in "one of the first"

[carver]

Carver, I bought my copy of KR today and I have read just about all the articles that interest me.

I glanced at Sally Simpson's page and speed read the article. No nothing there to command any deeper attention from me. Moved on to the next page etc.

KR does seem to try and provide a little for everyone, it could be a dangerous ploy! Their brush could end up being too broad, but that's their risk.

Do I feel short changed? No not at all. There are many other pages that get much the same treatment in fact there are probably many more pages and articles that I don't read fully because they don't interest me.

At the end of the day it's my choice to buy the magazine and it is my judgment as to whether I buy the next issue or not based on my perception of value received from the purchase and the amount of personal gratification gained from reading it.

I don't care if Sally Simpson's article didn't interest me in this issue, next time it just might.

As a reader I am prepared to take that chance and I will buy the next issue and collectively the magazine issues will tell me whether or not I want to continue to buy them.

You did ask for debate on the merits of Sally's contribution but you also laced your post with contempt for her which I feel slanted your request with a very negative bias against her.

My impression (from your post) was that you really only wanted contributions that would not be supportive of her. Your prerogative as the poster.

Like buying the mag and reading her articles or reading your post and responding, it was my choice, just as it yours to ignore my reply.

The rest is between her and her editor I guess. Have I missed your point? Cheers John.

thanks mate, what i did was a little rough i will admit, and i am honestly more interested in finding the people who like her page rather than dont, my gipe is that she dont write about bikes in a bike mag
maybe i was wrong about her, but at least i know now what she is like, so this thread is working (well, for me at least)
thanks all:spudflip:

[carver]

I'm always going to defend a friend from personal attacks, whether it be on a public forum or not. Her credentials as a motorcyclist are not in doubt.
I don't need to be told to grow up either. Those who had a personal dig at Sally do.

It looks like Keystone is gonna have a go at writing something for us, so there is something positive to come out of this thread.[/QUOTE]

good for you mate, i would do the same, all i really did was voice my opinion on her to kick off the debate, (all of the things i mentioned are my own pre conceptions of her and opinions and what i thought of her page).
that madalin (?) chic who writes for autocar now and sometimes pops up in the occasional bike mag was good, ya know?
anyways i would welcome any change for the simple reason of motorcycles being the topic in a motorcycle mag.
i do like the broad spread of your mag, but simply because i do everything, road, gravel, sports, dirt....
this thread actually stems from a conversation from a ride that i organised in the weekend, big ups to all 8 of you who came
and to the 2 that crashed and the yzf 750 that dropped!
we discussed her page, and almost all who talked aint happy with it, comments like "waste of space" , "never read it" etc.. i wanted to know if the wider community felt the same way, this thread reflects that, i asked people to voice their opinions, so naturally i voice my own first.

[Oscar]

good for you mate, i would do the same, all i really did was voice my opinion on her to kick off the debate, (all of the things i mentioned are my own pre conceptions of her and opinions and what i thought of her page).
that madalin (?) chic who writes for autocar now and sometimes pops up in the occasional bike mag was good, ya know?
anyways i would welcome any change for the simple reason of motorcycles being the topic in a motorcycle mag.

In your original post you say:

i find her irritating, sure i dont have to read her page

So don't.

It's half a page out of a hundred or so.

Use the time to learn capitalisation and how to post quotations...

[Motu]

, my gipe is that she dont write about bikes in a bike mag
:

This is a bike website - how much shit on here isn't about bikes at all? All sorts of wierd people ride bikes....but apart from you and me they are all fuckwits...actualy,come to think of it,I don't like your punctuation...

[Beemer]

I read some of her articles but not all of them because they aren't that interesting to me. The sad part is, most women don't write very exciting articles about motorcycling - so sorry if I ever bored anyone when I used to write for Kiwi Rider!

As for Nash, he irritates the living shit out of me, both in writing and in person! He didn't bother going to a WIMA rally then wrote a pile of shit about it so I wrote to the motoring editor of the Manawatu Standard to complain that it was inaccurate and he wasn't even there, despite making out he was - probably charged them mileage too! (In case you didn't know, he used to write one article for Kiwi Rider, then change a few sentences and sell it to the Standard!) It was passed on to Nash and he wrote the nastiest response back to me, saying he had phoned a WIMA member (but he hadn't actually spoken to her, I confirmed it with her) and he stood by his work.

I threw it away but a few months later I was in ANZA and he was there taking photos of a Goldwing. Smarmy prick came up to me and asked if I would mind sitting on the back for the photo? I said "but you don't like me, Mr Nash" and he looked puzzled and said "but I don't even know you". I told him my name and watched his face turn red.

I like Moroney's columns, they are invariably funny and well-written, but they could lose Nash and gain a few readers I reckon!

[Jinx3d]

Yeah, well - just to digress back to the topic of the thread - I find her articles boring too, but then I dont think I'm the target audience.

Like Carver, I think articles should be somewhat related to bikes. Maybe Kiwibiker IS full of o/t topics, but I dont pay for them, and I dont read them.

Sure - maybe the magazine would be thinner, but then you could print the latest load of crap about the long long dead lady Diana from the nearest gos mag if you are just packing it out.

The way I see it, if you dont want to talk motorcycles when you are priveledged enough to have a column in a motorcycle magazine - then you really have lost your passion for bikes.

I generally like nash's column, but I think he's an arogant SOB. When I was 16 I used to cruise the bike shops dreaming, phil turnballs, coop honda and anza.

Anza was invariably full of wankers that wouldnt give you the time of day and sure as hell didnt want you messing up the showroom. Still, maybe I've got the wrong guy, I cant tell one beard from another.

Anyway, KR is the cheapest magazine around, you want to read about sportbikes, buy a european magazine for $15, but are they really any better? The ones they send to NZ dont have any of the extras they advertise and Super bike magazine is pretty much just a thinly disgusted stick mag. A readers wives column, pfft. Seedy smelly porn for incontinent old men.

So, In summary -
Rock on KR - you may have your faults, but who the fuck doesnt!

[jonbuoy]

Is that bentman guy coming back from the UK to write for KB again?? He was good, I lost interest in it after he left, it changed the whole mag. I'm sure a whole page of the thing could be used as something more bike related than a page of out someones diary (no offence meant/intended). How about some practicle stuff - how your bike works, how to fix it, riding techniques etc....

[Beemer]

Yeah, I must confess I miss Bentman! He could be a total idiot at times but he was also a lot of fun and he does live and breathe bikes.

Esdaile offered me my first assignment for KR many moons ago - it was the opening of Motorad when Peter Daniell owned it. I covered the Cemetery Circuit and Manfeild for them for about five years and really loved it. I also wrote about my experiences learning to ride (now that was funny...!), our off-road adventures down south, and a few adventure rides I pillioned on. Ross did tell me he was keen to offer me some work in order to get more articles written from a female perspective but the sad fact is no work has eventuated. So I'll carry on writing for publications that do offer me regular work - it may not be as interesting, but it pays the bills!

[oldrider]

Seedy smelly porn for incontinent old men.

:spudwhat: What is the relevance of that comment?

You may live long enough to at least verify the truth of that assumption. :spudwow: Good luck.

[Big Dave]

Is that bentman guy coming back from the UK to write for KB again?? He was good, I lost interest in it after he left, it changed the whole mag. I'm sure a whole page of the thing could be used as something more bike related than a page of out someones diary (no offence meant/intended). How about some practicle stuff - how your bike works, how to fix it, riding techniques etc....

Not privy to the info but I don't think Benty is coming back - he's editing a UK dirt mag AFIK.

How about put the rest of it in a letter to the editor please.

dc