Lid laws

**Lou Girardin** · 16th March 2006, 10:27

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

didnt take you long sniper!

wrt to helemet standards, NZ laws never refer to a paticular standard in general,.

Au contraire. LTNZ has a list of acceptable worldwide standards.
ie. DOT is not accepted unless the helmet is made in the US.

**Squeak the Rat** · 16th March 2006, 11:29

Originally Posted by moggy

What brands of helmet are common in NZ? someone has mentioned Shoei, what about others?

Arai, Shoei, HJC, Nolan, Suomy, FFM, Bell and probably more. From my subjective observation Arai and Shoei are probably the most widely available "high-end" lids.

PS - Nice approach with the cops Sniper, I just read the thread. Big thumbs up on how you handled that. Being honest I would probably have hid behind a sarcastic letter and then have to go to court...

**moggy** · 16th March 2006, 11:36

heck, just read the visor thread.
I cant believe that a UK guy attempted to apply a UK law!!

(PS we arent all that bad, and I am not a cop!)

**Sniper** · 16th March 2006, 12:31

It was a misunderstanding on his part, but it was frustrating at the least.

**bungbung** · 16th March 2006, 15:03

Originally Posted by Sniper

Remember that any overseas lid cannot be used for racing though.

From the MNZ site:

8-2-2 COMPETITION HELMET STANDARDS:

The following are the Helmet Standards approved for Motorcycle Competition in New Zealand:

New Zealand: NZS 5430:1983
Australia: AS-1698
Denmark: DS 2124
Europe: ECE 22-03, ECE 22-04, ECE 22-05
Finland: SF 3653
France: AFNOR(NF)S – 72-305
Great Britain: BS 6658 Type A (Road Racing)
BS 6658 Type B (Off Road)
Japan: JIS. T8133/1982 Class C.
U.S.A: DOT FMVSS 218, SNELL M95, M2000
NOTE: Z90/1 Helmets are only approved
for off-road use.

Helmets older than 10yr will not be allowed

**MacD** · 16th March 2006, 18:36

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Au contraire. LTNZ has a list of acceptable worldwide standards.
ie. DOT is not accepted unless the helmet is made in the US.

Here's a link to the Land Transport NZ site where it lists the acceptable helmet standards.

Answers to other questions about the legal aspects of riding and licensing will also be found on the site.

As an aside, personal accident/injury insurance is provided by a state agency called the ACC and is compulsory and they have funded this Ride Forever website.

**Troll** · 18th March 2006, 20:07

Originally Posted by moggy

hi, I've not posted here for a while, but it is getting closer (about 2 months) to when we move over to NZ, and I am wondering what lid laws you have. I've been thinking about getting a new lid before we leave here, but then it occurred it may not be legal. So can someone point me in the right direction of what standards they have to comply to etc, either that or should I just wait till I get there to get a new one?

at the prices you can score decent bike gear at the BMF show in Peterborough you could buy a heap of gear and flick it on and make money when you get to NZ

you should be taking orders now

**moggy** · 20th March 2006, 09:56

Originally Posted by Troll

at the prices you can score decent bike gear at the BMF show in Peterborough you could buy a heap of gear and flick it on and make money when you get to NZ

you should be taking orders now

yeah right, I have only been there once, and after having been charged £8 to park the car (I was planning on buying loads of bargains and had a couple of mates with me), then having paid a silly amount to get in and queued at least an hour, I ended up saving myabe £2 on a bike cover. There were no real bargains to be had.
That and it took me 9 hours to get home from Birmingham

**Troll** · 20th March 2006, 22:15

Originally Posted by moggy

yeah right, I have only been there once, and after having been charged £8 to park the car (I was planning on buying loads of bargains and had a couple of mates with me), then having paid a silly amount to get in and queued at least an hour, I ended up saving myabe £2 on a bike cover. There were no real bargains to be had.
That and it took me 9 hours to get home from Birmingham

9 hours to get to birmingham??? via brighton was it ??

£8 to park the car???? car parking is free

last year scored a triumph leather jacket £20, BMW leather jeans £30 belstaff waterproof trousers £20, belstaff gloves £5 bike battery £15 wife scored shoei jacket £30

Arlen Ness gear was there at 1/2 price

come on get real if you couldn't find any bargains, you can't have been looking very hard

**moggy** · 20th March 2006, 22:24

Originally Posted by Troll

9 hours to get to birmingham??? via brighton was it ??

the M6 was closed due to an accident and there was thick fog which meant when I finally got back on it, max speed was about 30mph and I had to drop a mate of at Manchester.

**Troll** · 20th March 2006, 22:32

Originally Posted by moggy

the M6 was closed due to an accident and there was thick fog which meant when I finally got back on it, max speed was about 30mph and I had to drop a mate of at Manchester.

that explains the 9 hours then

seriously buy some decent kit before you go to NZ the choice there is somewhat limited and expensive

and dispite what the travel brochures say it rains more in actual rainfall in nz than the uk and you will need good wet weather gear