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    summed up nicely RD..
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    Arrow So what do we do about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    The world is flat someone told me once so I must accept that to?

    We have no reason to accept anything in this country, thats why we live in one of those Democracy things by theory our opinions should be heard by the government and acted upon.

    And should NZ be held in the dark ages while the rest of the world leaps ahead technologically Inline? All because one company has become addicted to its multi billion dollar profits?
    Not alot. We will whinge and nothing will change? Probably. Don't get me wrong, I agree with what your saying and I have a strong dislike for telescum. But at the end on the day, the only true way to sort telescum out is for the Govt to unbundle the phone lines. Then, we will see some changes. Hopefully with telescum continuing to rape NZ consumers, the unbundling will happen sooner...
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    unbundling won't happen any time soon. As long as Telecom continue to blackmail the govt and commissioner, everyone else can go to hell, in their opinion. So what if NZ is falling behind. So what if NZers want faster cheaper internet.. Telecom is investing tons of cash in the economy. If they're broken up, then NZ will loose out.

    That's their pitch anyway. So until the govt grows some hairy plums, not a lot will change. Telecom will just keep the govt happy with 'advances in technology' like the limit on broadband released, ever so slightly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RantyDave
    as a machine for extracting money from the Kiwi public and passing it over to their investors it is finely tuned, well maintained and doing it's job perfectly.
    I don't doubt their ability to extract money from the good kiwi public but having worked for them, as a contractor, a lot of their staff are generally overpaid and unproductive and they are happy to throw money at customers to mask a problem rather than solve it.

    Finely tuned they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dover
    I don't doubt their ability to extract money from the good kiwi public but having worked for them, as a contractor, a lot of their staff are generally overpaid and unproductive and they are happy to throw money at customers to mask a problem rather than solve it.

    Finely tuned they are not.
    Dont work for Honda then. You need 2 things to work at Honda . a desk and a window to watch out of. ( 3 actually ,you need something to fill in your time untill bonus month ,,,,Magazines or err the internet are good ways )

    Not that I work for Honda , only trained by them


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    Heard today that telescum are upping broadband speeds by %400 by xmas. And it has nothing to do with the pressure the media etc have been exerting

    year right

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    tell me why????

    OK: Tell me why...
    the NEXT door neigbour has broadband ... and i cannot!!!

    they are another 75m down the road + 20m (inland from road)IE: further from the exchange than me...
    and yet they can have broadband and not me....me.me.me, its all about ME


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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    unbundling won't happen any time soon. As long as Telecom continue to blackmail the govt and commissioner, everyone else can go to hell, in their opinion.
    If you watched Campbells interview with the Govt dude wrt to the ULL and telecons latest upgrade the day before a govt speech on the matter they are right fucked off with being blackmailed etc and said that things would be changing sometime this year, weather that means ULL or not we will have to wait and see, but from the way he was talking Helen has finally decided to use her balls and stop being bullied by little old telecon.

    And look at other ULL countrys like the states AT&T still make a whopping great profit dont they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajturbo
    OK: Tell me why...
    the NEXT door neigbour has broadband ... and i cannot!!!

    they are another 75m down the road + 20m (inland from road)IE: further from the exchange than me...
    and yet they can have broadband and not me....me.me.me, its all about ME
    This is probably because of Telecom's Predictive Bandwidth Estimation Methodology (PBEM).

    Basically, bandwidth availability on broadband decreases as the line quality deteriorates. So, at a certain point you reach the point where Telecom consider that the bandwidth available may not be adequate for the client's requirements. If their estimation is that the bandwidth they can supply will be inadequate , they will not provision a broadband capability. From their point of view it is better customer relations to tell you upfront that they can't do it, rather than putting it in and then having you complain about the speed being slower than dial up.

    Of course, the key to this is the estimate of the client's bandwidth requirements. Telecom have automated tools to determine this. What they do is look back at your previous browsing history. They have found that the greatest bandwidth load, by far, is imposed by downloading porn. Heavy downloaders of porn require far more bandwidth than other people. And those who are into gay porn use far more bandwidth than straight porn viewers (no idea at all why this is - I know *nothing* about gay porn, go ask Telecom).

    So, in your case, Telecom have assessed the bandwidth requirement of your neighbour, and consider that it is likely to be much less than yours. In other words, the broadband quality in your area is sufficient for your neighbour's requirements, but not for yours. Perhaps your neighbour is a nun? Or a very old lady? Or perhaps , based on the above, there is some other reason why your predicted bandwidth requirement should be very high. I'm sure I couldn't say why.But it seems Telecom know something.
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