Better not be one of you

[Lias]

Whether it was rape or not, three adult cops (at least one with a partner and kids) took advantage of, and exploited an 18 year old girl. In a particularly disgusting manner as well. From a purely moral persppective, these guys weren't fit to wear the uniform, much less reach Asst Commissioner.

Bugger off Lou, thats just trying to force your (apparently somewhat narrow) moral viewpoint on others.. Personally I'm monogamous, but have no issues with people having 3somes, group sex, or whatever. My best mate and his missus are swingers and you wouldnt meet a nice couple.
As for her being 18 and them being in their 20's/30's, if your telling me you wouldnt have fucked a keen 18 year old at that age your either lying or a prude.

[zeRax]

18's a bit old aint it :\?

[zeRax]

let them die in my opinion, thou it sucks for any innocents, in a perfect world if someone knocked me off cause they were being stupid id slice them open with my gigantic sword that is far too big for me to hold, but it doesnt matter cause id have reached super sayian status

[Lou Girardin]

Why are you so bitter against all police? i

If your unhappy with the way the police operates then i suggest you aim your thoughts against the government. Do you think cops get some kind of financial incentive to issue tickets? they dont. It is what the government instructs us to do.

The road toll has to come down though, it is ridiculous. Way too many people die on our road's.

I'm not bitter at all. I get on quite well with several cops. But I'll do as much as I can to make Pollies see the error of your ways. But as a cop you get to wear public opprobrium. Perhaps you guys should be lobbying the Police Association, as has been done in the UK, to force a change in strategy.
You can't believe that issueing tickets for 11 - 15 km/h over the limit, mainly during the day, is having any effect on death rates. In 6 years it's still hovering around the low to mid 400's. With all the tickets written it should be under 300 now.
Besides, the road toll doesn't really have to come down. LTNZ's target of 300 per year is just a meaningless number. We kill the appropriate number according to the condition of our roads, level of driver training and drivers acceptance of risk.

[nadroj]

LTNZ's target of 300 per year is just a meaningless number. We kill the appropriate number according to the condition of our roads, level of driver training and drivers acceptance of risk.

How true...

[spudchucka]

Perhaps you guys should be lobbying the Police Association, as has been done in the UK, to force a change in strategy.

http://www.nzpa.org.nz/

PDF versions of the police association news going back to Jan / Feb 2002 are available online for anyone to read.

Have a look through the letters section at the back of each issue.

[Lou Girardin]

Actually Spud, being the knowledgeable tuber that you are. How many cops are in HP?
A news item the other night gave the number of cops as 7200 excluding HP.
Why would they want to hide HP numbers?

[Paul in NZ]

Sadly. Lou kinda has a point on this one. (the sex case)

But, is it fair to expect every policeman or woman to be celebate in the chance that their sex lives come out into open court in the future? Sure this shows a shocking lack of commonsense, poor choices and low morals but then again, how many marriages has the stress of police work ripped apart?

Should we even be surprised at this case?

The real question is, was it rape? Thats awfully hard to decide but either way, several peoples careers are over and I have a funny feeling this is not ending here... Appeals, magazine stories.. Bloody hell!

Now the funny thing is, why can't the good things the Police do get the same coverage?

The media could package it up if they choose to but they have a mindset these days. I really dislike it!

Paul N

[spudchucka]

Actually Spud, being the knowledgeable tuber that you are. How many cops are in HP?
A news item the other night gave the number of cops as 7200 excluding HP.
Why would they want to hide HP numbers?

Actually I wouldn't have a clue how many HP cops there are. I've never been asked that before, however I think there would be around 800 - 1000.

I think Marty did a stint in HP, he might be able to help you.

[spudchucka]

Now the funny thing is, why can't the good things the Police do get the same coverage?

It simply doesn't work for the media the way all the scandal style stories do.

[marty]

With all the tickets written it should be under 300 now.

obviously that comment is based on your tireless, published research into how enforcing compliance with road rules affects death rate/1000 people.

[Madness]

The roads in this country are rubbish i agree but that is not the main reason for crashes, its poor driving, alcohol and mostly, speed.

Speed huh??? Fecking P-Heads again!!!

[Lou Girardin]

Who told you that? there is approx 7000 front line cops and that is everything from what i know.

There was a story on relative Police numbers compared to other countries. The figures supplied by NZ Police stated 7200 frontline Police excluding HP.
I'm curious as to how many HP there are and why they're excluded.
Could it be that HP resources are ring-fenced for traffic only?

[Lou Girardin]

obviously that comment is based on your tireless, published research into how enforcing compliance with road rules affects death rate/1000 people.

It's probably as effective as LTNZ's research that completely ignores factors like vehicle safety, road improvements, improvements in medical care.

[mikey]

If you aren't wearing it you get a ticket, I don't care who you are, what your driving record is or what your excuse is. I've seen too many broken bodies to care what you or anyone else thinks about it. I've lost count of the bodies I've had to clean up in the mortuary, trying to make them presentable to the relatives who have the grissly task of identifying their expired loved one.
it liberally where its deserved.

on that basis of personal gain in ticketing.
do you ticket people who are smoking/black/white/asian/jewish/young/got a hotter girlfriend/faster car/bike than you?