Better not be one of you

[marty]

unfortunately lou, ltnz has the power to effect change. you just whinge.

[spudchucka]

Could it be that HP resources are ring-fenced for traffic only?

They are ring fenced to traffic duties but they aren't so restricted that they can't respond to other emergencies requiring police attendance. However, even if they are first on the scene and apprehend the offender they usually won't take the prosecution file. That will be passed onto a GDB or CIB cop, which ever is appropriate, keeping the traffic unit on the street rather than stuck behind a computer generating shit loads of paper work.

[Lou Girardin]

They are ring fenced to traffic duties but they aren't so restricted that they can't respond to other emergencies requiring police attendance. However, even if they are first on the scene and apprehend the offender they usually won't take the prosecution file. That will be passed onto a GDB or CIB cop, which ever is appropriate, keeping the traffic unit on the street rather than stuck behind a computer generating shit loads of paper work.

OK, that makes sense in a strange kind of way. But why exclude them? It smacks of trying to hide the true numbers.
I would have thought the Govt would want all possible cops included in the total.

[marty]

it's probably because the true highway patrol numbers are actually quite low, considering the total police muster (less than 30 for the whole waikato - to cover 7 days/20 hours a day don't forget - that's like a police station the size of Huntly covering ALL the waikato!).

at any given time, there is only 6-10 hp cars on the road in the WHOLE of the waikato - from south of te kuiti, to meremere, to whitianga and whangamata.

the reality is that HP is really quite thin on the ground, lending more weight to if you're caught by a HP unit, you're just not paying attention!

[spudchucka]

OK, that makes sense in a strange kind of way. But why exclude them? It smacks of trying to hide the true numbers.
I would have thought the Govt would want all possible cops included in the total.

I have no idea why but it seems that you always assume the worst case scenario???

[spudchucka]

We are supposed to have 10 cops on the street in the city district during shift, we have 5 on my section.

We have two on my section and for the next four weeks its just me. Obviously we aint central Dorkland but we do still cover a huge geographical area. Also, our station is meant to have five STU, at the moment we have two.

[spudchucka]

Yeah i mean we do see lots of action in auckland but the thing is we are not hours from backup, thats one thing that slightly unnerves me about down the line policing.

Yeah, rural policing is a different ball game. Thats why I always take Mr Glock & Mr Remmington out with me on night shifts.

[naughtygirl]

LOL some drunks crack me up! was the girl ok?

[loosebruce]

Fuck me, any thread that mentions POLICE just goes way outta control, some people need to grow the fuck up, not you mikey you aight by me, as for the point of this thread, shit there are some muppets out there, Dyna50 on ya for locking the knob up, the whole GSXR bizzo, dont quote me but Eagle's top speed is in the 240kph range (whatever it is in knots, Marty?) so it wouldn't keep up with a GSXR1000 in full flight, but GSXR has to go round corners, avoid traffic and w whole heap of shit that Eagle doesn't, i'm no fool, some might disagree with me there, but i'm not dumb enough to take on Eagle, i've been given the learn late one night when a 180kph wheelie with my headlight pointing skywards attracted Eagle, doh, took me a while to figure out what the hell the bright light was around me and then i did think, fuck thats a bright moon, why didn't i see that before, before i realized it was the chopper, i slowed and waved to them to say how fricken sorry i am, they were prolly waiting for me to pull another wheelie, but i didn't have my scanner on so i dont know, but i look up more than around the road for cop cars, the old commondore is not much match for the GSXR, eya yea the raido i know, but rule of the thumb is short and sweet and if it means camping out somewhere and coming back later for the bike it's better than a convoy of 5 cars after ya after half an hour of running around residental area's endangering a shit load more people at the same time. yea i run it's not best but i do have some rules for it, i've been caught and i take whats coming no two ways about it.

Not really sure what my point is to be honest but i highly doubt this guy got near 300kph on Gt South Rd, i think whoever claimed that he did was a cop caught up in the moment, a GSXR doesn't turn very quickly at that speed, and it doesn't stop very quickly from that speed, upto 240 odd yeah maybe.

[Patrick]

300, 240... who cares? Well over 50 aint it... nearly taken out 3 times and for what...??? Rider didn't care for much so shouldn't be too worried about jail time/losing licence etc...

[Blairos]

Well, this has certainly become an interesting thread - heres my $0.02c worth

1. The laws of this land are the laws - the boys & girls in Blue are tasked to uphold them - they are merely carrying what they are sworn to do - uphold the law.

2. Now we may or may not agree with the law - if you think it needs changing, dont moan at the enforcers - go to where these laws get dreamt up and put in place (i can hear you all roaring with laughter now...) the Government or your local MP. They all have email addresses - why dont you start sending them enough crap to fill their inboxes and get their attention?

3. I dont agree with some aspects of the law regarding traffic, and issuing of tickets in some circumstances, but these guys/gals are just the messengers - "shooting" the messenger doesnt change anything

4. The topic that started all this off was a success story that, IMHO, should have been reported - Good work guys, for catching the drug-filled idiot (and the 300 kay disqualified rider!

[loosebruce]

300, 240... who cares? Well over 50 aint it... nearly taken out 3 times and for what...??? Rider didn't care for much so shouldn't be too worried about jail time/losing licence etc...

Yea thats well ture, in the eyes of the judge it wouldn't make much diff what speed the rider was doing, the eagle video would be fucken cool too watch though, in a i like watching world's scariest police chases cool, not i condone his efforts cool.

[marty]

loosebruce, that post made WAY too much sense.

and it's about 128kts, would be Vne in a squirrel.

[scumdog]

We have two on my section and for the next four weeks its just me. Obviously we aint central Dorkland but we do still cover a huge geographical area. Also, our station is meant to have five STU, at the moment we have two.

Meant to have 3 gdb - got 2, meant to have 3 STU - got two
2 of 3 CIB types away on leave/courses.
2 outstations on long service leave
I cover area 45km X 140km solo fairlt frequently.

Yup, overpaid and overstaffed.

And love the job, you meet the nicest types (Can't speak for the workmates but ).

[EZAS]

Well heres my 2 cents worth

The guy did nothing wrong,

UNTILL

He hit the girl and showed no remorse by leaving darkies further up the road.

Being an idiot on the road, pulling burnouts, getting in high speed pursuits ..... yea yea ... thats just an average day, BUT causing physical damage to another person thats another story.

If someone else has to suffer for your enjoyment, (Having an idiot fly past at over 250kmh to disturb your peaceful 80kmh drive down the motorway DOES NOT COUNT) then hopefullly KARMA or a prison cell mate will come back to bite you in the ass.

The police have a job to, they get paid to do it. SO they have no right to bitch about how hard there job is OR moan about how they got no sleep because they were doing such a hard job.

I don't like most police that I've meet, I like less the criminals I've had to encounter. Leave me alone to ride/fly in peace