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[Krusti]

What a load of dribble, as if ya would grab this cop swinging a PR24! What a man, better than me!

In any of these sort of cases you would get his id number and tell someone, "it was him".

But if you give it a go can I be there to take pics?

[T.I.E]

I think actually that once the lawyer gets involved it's more a case of if you if you lose you lose and if you win you still lose.
The only winner being the lawyer.

i would happly lose to the lawyer anyday even if it cost me more.

who polices the police?

[T.I.E]

there is no requirement for police to wait for you to obtain legal advice before they undertake their procedure. you can take all the advice you want, no cop is going to wait for you to get off the phone, and how can you get accurate legal advice if you haven't been formally told of the charges you are facing? is your lawyer going to talk to the cop and try to talk them out of the ticket? how do they even know you're getting legal advice from a lawyer? should they ask to see the lawyer's LLB? do they even care?

and citizen's arrest - not unless it is for an offence punishable by imprisonment.

punishable by 3 years imprisonment, or unless during the hours of night, then depending on which act you wish to state.

but what i like about these types of chat is knowledge, quoting acts and bills gives us all a better understanding of law and what they can and can't get away with. if you didn't challenge we would all be walked over all the time.

but i do stess, if you see something on this site please don't take it for gospil, check it out for yourself. some is hearsay, so do be careful. i would hate to hear "but under the TIE act of 2006 i can bear my butt to you"

just throwing in a caution.

[spudchucka]

punishable by 3 years imprisonment, or unless during the hours of night, then depending on which act you wish to state.

but what i like about these types of chat is knowledge, quoting acts and bills gives us all a better understanding of law and what they can and can't get away with. if you didn't challenge we would all be walked over all the time.

but i do stess, if you see something on this site please don't take it for gospil, check it out for yourself. some is hearsay, so do be careful. i would hate to hear "but under the TIE act of 2006 i can bear my butt to you"

just throwing in a caution.

A wise caution indeed.

The "by night" part of the legislation quoted earlier refers to offences against the crimes act. Night in terms of the crimes act is between 2100 & 0600 hours.

Not many people who witness an offence would know whether it is an offence against the crimes act or any other act or whether it is punishable by more than three years imprisonment. Therefore they couldn't affect a lawful citizens arrest in most circumstances and they would open themselves up to prosecution and possibly civil liability.

[sAsLEX]

i would suggest you would find YOURSELF being arrested (by someone who DOES have authority bestowed upon them)

I have powers of arrest on duty, does a cop have powers of arrest off duty?

[spudchucka]

I have powers of arrest on duty, does a cop have powers of arrest off duty?

You have powers of arrest on duty? What duty is that?

Does a cop have a power of arrest while off duty? Yes they do.

[Ixion]

You have powers of arrest on duty? What duty is that?

,,,

I imagine,

ARMED FORCES DISCIPLINE ACT 1971
PART 4 - ARREST AND SEARCH
88. Arrest without warrant—


(1)A [member of the Armed Forces] may, without warrant, arrest a person subject to this Act whom he is empowered to arrest in accordance with this section if—

(a)He finds the person committing an offence against this Act; or

(b)He has reasonable grounds to suspect that the person is committing or has committed such an offence.

(2)For the purposes of this section—

(a)An officer is empowered to arrest—

(i)A rating, soldier, or airman; or

(ii)An officer who is not his superior officer; or

(iii)Any officer (though of higher rank), if the offence or suspected offence is mutiny or the officer is behaving in a disorderly or violent manner:

(b)A non-commissioned officer is empowered to arrest—

(i)A rating, soldier, or airman who is not his superior officer; or

(ii)Any rating, soldier, or airman (though of higher rank) if the offence or suspected offence is mutiny or the rating, soldier, or airman is behaving in a disorderly or violent manner:

(c)A provost officer, or a person lawfully exercising authority under or on behalf of a provost officer, is empowered to arrest any person subject to this Act:

[marty]

MP's can arrest any armed forces member, at any time, not just on duty.

bit like a police officer can arrest any person, without warrant, any time, doesn't have to be on duty either.

and the 'beating a toddler to death' is a bit out of context of this conversation. i thought we were talking about detaining a police officer until legal advice had been obtained?

[sAsLEX]

You have powers of arrest on duty? What duty is that?
Does a cop have a power of arrest while off duty? Yes they do.

Like Ixion said, MD5 piece of paper gives me that ability, and depends where I am as to which duty that would be.

Does an off duty cop have to prove he is a cop, I mean I could just think it is another citizen or are you req to carry ID at all times?

[spudchucka]

LDoes an off duty cop have to prove he is a cop, I mean I could just think it is another citizen or are you req to carry ID at all times?

If not in uniform you are required to identify yourself and produce your ID card.

We aren't required to carry our ID at all times but most tend to keep it in their wallet when off duty.

[mdb]

So I was coming home from work tonight out of the Terrace Tunnel and heading north when up on the horizon something bright yellow catches my eye. I look a little closer and realise it is a cop on a bike with a speed gun. Naturally I look at my speedo and notice that I'm going a little faster than the posted limit (about 15km more). It isn't that I'm going fast it is just sometimes you end up over the limit. Anyway I wonder what he is going to do and as I go past I swear the cop smiles at me then turns back to his work!

Maybe my speedo isn't that accurate (I've gotten many different readings at the 'speed' signs (Tawa etc), but the smile was a nice touch.

[sAsLEX]

but the smile was a nice touch.

I think thats what they call discretion

[Patrick]

In my day, we didn't wear high vis vests because they weren't cool. And what do ya know, our supervisors didn't give a damn!
Times have changed.

They're still not cool... some supers don't give a damn still... times sure have changed tho...

[RantyDave]

If you commit a burlary for example and you are not caught at the scene, chances are high that the police will catch up with you.

LOL!

Really? You really think that?

Really?

If the police caught burglars, would there be any left? Would we even need "career criminal" as an expression?

Dave