Our riding.

**Zed** · 19th April 2004, 21:35

Originally Posted by dangerous

...And does any one else out there think that its about time Wkid & Zed had there own thread list titeled ummm maybe 'The good and the bad'

Oh haha...hey Mr D you could join us- "the good, the bad and the ugly!!!"

Zed

p.s To qualify joining you have to believe in something!

**dangerous** · 19th April 2004, 21:48

Originally Posted by Zed

Oh haha...hey Mr D you could join us- "the good, the bad and the ugly!!!"

Zed

p.s To qualify joining you have to believe in something!

LMAO

OHHHH........ that one will keep

**Draco** · 19th April 2004, 22:03

Good to see the "constructive" comments at last.
Jack, instead of personal attacks, you are now making some valid points. We (death & I) do encourage everyone we ride with to wear really good gear, and maintain their bike. Unfortunately, each person is responsible for themselves at the end of the day and not as fastidious as we are about maintenance, and some people work on a budget or have no mechanical experience. But we do try to encourage others as much as possible.

But as spman pointed out, it was very disapointing to return from such an awesome day to immediately get slagged by someone who wasn't even there. When you ride with a bunch of strangers, with varying degrees of experience, speed, personalities it is always a juggling act. I personally felt that our group ride was really relaxed, everyone (almost) rode at their own pace, and the whole group looked out for each other. That, at the end of the day is what's really important.

If a group ride is not your thing that's your choice, but if it's not, please don't try to sabotage the fun of those of us who do enjoy group rides. Remember every group is different, and each new member of the site should not be pre-judged by the past events.

I am always keen to meet new people to ride with, and i don't care how fast or slow they ride. I really enjoyed the company of everyone i rode with on saturday and would love to ride with any of you again.

Cheers, Draco.

**Rodders** · 19th April 2004, 22:09

Thanks Death and Draco for organising the CORO ride.Had a ball and really enjoyed meeting a good friendly bunch of riders from alround with no egos.
Been very entertaining reading the dialogue. Some wise comments coming thru SP , CLAIRE.
I believe you are at the end of the day responsible for the way you twist your OWN throttle - no one else. Sure the arenalin flows in a group - but you have to use your OWN brain and experience to know when to push and when to back off so you don't ruin someone elses day or your own.
Live to ride another day.
We all do this for fun and I think there were no complaints by those who actually did the ride ....only those that didn't???
Look forward to the next ride with you all.

**MadDuck** · 19th April 2004, 22:28

Originally Posted by Rodders

Thanks Death and Draco for organising the CORO ride.Had a ball and really enjoyed meeting a good friendly bunch of riders from alround with no egos.
Been very entertaining reading the dialogue. Some wise comments coming thru SP , CLAIRE.
I believe you are at the end of the day responsible for the way you twist your OWN throttle - no one else. Sure the arenalin flows in a group - but you have to use your OWN brain and experience to know when to push and when to back off so you don't ruin someone elses day or your own.
Live to ride another day.
We all do this for fun and I think there were no complaints by those who actually did the ride ....only those that didn't???
Look forward to the next ride with you all.

Ok dammit I wasnt there ....but I wish I was now. Why do we ride in groups? But to improve our own riding skills and if there is one or two chose to go and prove a point well let them go and we see the result of that. I find riding with a group so much more fun than turning up to a cafe alone...keep up the good work DEATH (and Draco) cos next time I will be there for sure
But Dangeroous does have a point....what message do we want to send to cagers if we all wearing KB shirts and keep binning ????
Just my 2c

**moko** · 19th April 2004, 23:37

Originally Posted by Cajun

Riding bikes or pretty much being on the road full stop, you are gonna crash/come off one day sooner or later. Often its due to no fault of your own. And if always rode around like babys, there would be on fun in it, and arn't we in to riding for fun and enjoyment?

What an attitude,if you ride thinking that eventually you`re going to fall off you cant have a lot of confidence in your ability.Brit Police are taught that there`s no such thing as an accident,somewhere down the line some dork has screwed up and created the situation that caused the incident."Riding like babys",well someone who rides within their skill level no matter how slowly is being a lot more mature and intelligent than the brainless cowboys who fly around on the edge of disaster trying to keep up with the faster riders who do have the skills to handle those things that are "no fault of your own".I like to ride fast and I like to cruise along and take in the view,what I dont do is take stupid risks,ever.Bike accidents aren`t a laugh,even in these PC days wheelchairs dont have a lot of street cred and death isnt glamourous,you shit yourself and your parents cry.I`ve got no problem with fast,safe riders,people doing stuff they know how to do expertly e.t.c. but gung-ho attitudes are what leads to disaster on group rides.I dont do them anymore because they always used to turn into a race with people on fast bikes they couldn`t handle putting everyone at risk.Now there`s just one guy I ride with and I know he knows his stuff and we can have a bit of a hoon knowing the other is observing everything around and isn`t going to do anything dumb or un-predictable.

**Slim** · 19th April 2004, 23:39

Anybody want to own up to a wheelstand on SH1 near Karapiro Mobil heading towards Cambridge Monday morning????

I was driving along thinking, "Oooh it's a bike ... hang on ... it's too tall to be a bike .... what the???" and grinning as a red bike of probably Japanese-4 persuasion passed me in a full mono with the rider standing on the pegs.

I have to admit to that being the first time I've seen a wheelie pulled in everyday traffic, with no other riders around to be showing off to. Good on ya.

**V Twin Raver** · 20th April 2004, 08:03

Originally Posted by Slim

Anybody want to own up to a wheelstand on SH1 near Karapiro Mobil heading towards Cambridge Monday morning????

On the subject; Does anybody (on an 03/04 R1) want to own up to a wheelstand on Ti-Rakau Drive heading towards Botany Town Centre on Sunday Morning. Same type of thing, I was in a cage, looked in the rear view mirror and had a glimpse in the distance of the underbelly of a bike - for a long time - wheelie right past Headin Home Bar. And then eventually came past me on two wheels. Well Done!

Posh; I will not be there on Friday - got work to attend to. But we will have to catch up for a ride in the future.

**Cajun** · 20th April 2004, 08:05

Originally Posted by dangerous

What a lot of bollocks man, Suzuki are way over cautious when it comes to running in. If its got 500-1000k on it then give it the stick. I had 2000k on my VTR and went to a track day and its run a lot better ever since.
BTW Honda dont have a restriction on revs the book says ride normaly... thats balls out

If ya baby it around for to long then it will never rev out and perform at its best IMHO

Well dangerous i have done about 800kms now. Its getting its first service end of this week. Once that is done i will just ride it. not baby it it. But until then i still baby it, i want the motor to last, i won't be allowed to get a new bike for another 5 years, and i do at least 15-20,000kms a year, so over 5 years that will be something around or over 80,000kms and i don't want to run in to problem in that time if possible. That many japanese company can't be wrong, and i have also been told buy a few friends who use race suzukis to follow manual for first 1000kms then jsut ride it, and this as also come froma couple i guys i know who are engine reconditions(they do motorbikes as well, that they believe you don't run and engine in hard, and they do race engines for cars/bikes/boats)

So really, its my bike i will ride it how i want, and baby it when i want, and take it to the track when i am good and ready to, and not before.

**pete376403** · 20th April 2004, 08:57

Lots of people "run-in" by running it slow, getting into top gear as soon as possible, chugging around. This is certain death for the motor, as there's too much heat build up, and at low revs, not enough oil flowing.
Keeping it in the middle of the rev range, varying the revs, occassionaly giving a good rev, and not letting it labour will make for a happier motor

**Cajun** · 20th April 2004, 09:01

Originally Posted by pete376403

Lots of people "run-in" by running it slow, getting into top gear as soon as possible, chugging around. This is certain death for the motor, as there's too much heat build up, and at low revs, not enough oil flowing.
Keeping it in the middle of the rev range, varying the revs, occassionaly giving a good rev, and not letting it labour will make for a happier motor

Thats what i am doing pete not labouring it, but keeping it in middle of rev range, and vary the revs as you go as well with the gears. But i wanna run in it a bit before i start keeping it in the high part of rev range.

**dangerous** · 20th April 2004, 19:31

Originally Posted by Cajun

Well dangerous i have done about 800kms now. Its getting its first service end of this week
So really, its my bike i will ride it how i want, and baby it when i want, and take it to the track when i am good and ready to, and not before.

Mate..... I wasent telling you what to do, did you not notice
the 'IMHO'

You are doing nothing different to what I do when running in.

What I will say is that I once ran a bike in slow and till about 4000km and it strugled to do 170k were as I also ran in a diferent bike but the same engine and put 400k on it then rung its neck and this bike pulled 200 and got there a shit load quicker (with bigger jets and pipe mod)

**DEATH_INC.** · 20th April 2004, 20:14

Originally Posted by Jackrat

The wheel stand display was witnessed by at lest one person that wasn't impressed and had the guts to say so.So some degree of harm was done.

I believe the person you are refering to wasn't actually present.(I could be wrong though....)

Originally Posted by Jackrat

If we recive a complaint,we address it,we don't launch a personal attack an tell people to fuck off.

Originally Posted by Jackrat

and others poping wheelies to show what wankers they are.

Remember this line?I DO take this as a personal attack (not really a complaint ,is it?)on myself and my friend and responded accordingly.

When all is said and done I feel we all had a good time and look forward to riding with you guys again.

Just make sure you say if you don't want the wheelies ect on YOUR ride and we'll stay away.

**DEATH_INC.** · 20th April 2004, 20:24

Originally Posted by Cajun

So really, its my bike i will ride it how i want, and baby it when i want, and take it to the track when i am good and ready to, and not before.

I ran mine in as per manual and had no probs with it.It made 118hp@rear with just a Kerker can which is good for this model('99 GSXR750).It's done nearly 40k now had 2 other owners and still going as strong as ever

**jimbo600** · 20th April 2004, 20:30

Originally Posted by DEATH_INC.

I ran mine in as per manual and had no probs with it.It made 118hp@rear with just a Kerker can which is good for this model('99 GSXR750).It's done nearly 40k now had 2 other owners and still going as strong as ever

I used to own that gixxer death. Bloody awesome bike. Had alot of fun on that one. Kerker can sound shit hot too.