mid corner gravel rocks the party

[MadDuck]

Grumpy old farts who spend more time on the computer than riding bikes eh.

yeah Motu some people on here may be grumpy and old ...who knows but we learn from your guys experiences. Young and silly and dead is not as good as grumpy and in my book...umm IMHO. I can see the headlines now. Who is the granny (me) still riding a motorbike at age umm 90

[deeknow]

Here's the e-mail I sent to the council, I'll let the pictures tell the rest....As you can imagine i was pretty upset, cursing the fact that there was no roadsigns. I look around and see roadsigns 200m further on!

Dude ... I hear ya. Thats the Collins Rd intersection out by the Mormon Temple aint it? I had a bike-damaging experience in exactly the same spot a couple of weeks back.

I was riding thru there one Sunday about the time they were re-shaping the intersection. Being the weekend there was noone working on it (of course) but they did have road-works signs up. I slowed down to 30-ish ... and all of a sudden spot a wheel-wide crevass-like crater running the full width of the road. Front wheel drops into it with a clunk and now I've gotta get the forks seen to as they're definately wacky.

The thing that really pisses me off is the fuckers who were working on the section of road made no attempt to cover or temporarily fill the hole in the road for the weekend. Sounds like the project was half-arsed.

[FROSTY:Me]

um for the record-in my case -many years ago-the then MOT contacted the council and the council paid to fix my bike.
The council got it a whole passle of shit over having no sighns on a roadworks area.

[Lou Girardin]

I want signs when there's cow shit on the road, diesel, cars on the wrong side, cops ahead, etc. I WANT SIGNS FOR EVERYTHING!
Then nothing will be my fault.
Lou

[Motu]

Good one Lou - but unfortunatly that's the way it's going,someones to blame for my fuck up,and they're gunna pay for it!

[merv]

Yep, the American way.

When I attended Michigan Uni in 1992 I really enjoyed one of the lecturers saying that the Yanks had grown "fat, dumb and happy" and it was knocking their global competitiveness and just fuelling the lives of the "bottom dwelling, scumsucking, lawyers" but that's what comes from "hey, not my fault".

NZ grew up on the pioneering spirit of our "can do" forefathers, but slowly but surely the control freaks are winning and we are having it squeezed out of us. Blaming anyone else won't help any of us because it will lead to those that are blamed (e.g. roading authorities) slapping on more and more restrictive rules and regulations. Is that want we want? I don't think so.

As an example if we complain about gravel on the road, you can just see the signs "Not safe for motorcycles" or "Motorcycles Prohibitied".

So don't push it. Those are my thoughts and basically I'm with Motu on this one. If you can't see properly around the corner and the gravel "surprises" you, maybe you gotta think about slowing down in such conditions.

[merv]

So,have you learnt something,or are you going to continue blaming someone else for not keeping your eyes peeled.You sound like my mate who was gunna ''do'' the council when he canned it on white lines in the wet.

Yeah like he couldn't see the white lines and he never knew it was raining.

[scroter]

those resealed bits suck when they do finally sweep them(weve got one gone unswept for a month, great for windscreen companys but not for us bikers) they sweep them all into the nearest side road and dont bother sweeping that. I dont know how many sportsbikes are out there but my tyres dont mind a bit of water spreading but they really struggle with stones no matter what speed. I reckon sweep the road or leave the signs up how many of you have gone down a road no signs, reseal with two tyre tracks and a blood great pile in the middle. al good till you go round a corner

[Motu]

Yeah like he couldn't see the white lines and he never knew it was raining.

It was the jacket he was pissed off about - he held the bike up with his elbow so the bike didn't get scratched.

[Deano]

um for the record-in my case -many years ago-the then MOT contacted the council and the council paid to fix my bike.
The council got it a whole passle of shit over having no sighns on a roadworks area.

There we go then.

There are enough hazards out on the roads without morons creating more.

The Council were obviously negligent, IN THIS CASE at least, but I would also get the insurance company to pay up and chase the Council themselves.

[Ghost Lemur]

There we go then.

There are enough hazards out on the roads without morons creating more.

The Council were obviously negligent, IN THIS CASE at least, but I would also get the insurance company to pay up and chase the Council themselves.

Although that's got it's down sides too. Particularly if he's currently got a no claims bonus and/or high excess.

[Deano]

Although that's got it's down sides too. Particularly if he's currently got a no claims bonus and/or high excess.

I suppose at least he has insurance...

[speedpro]

I think if you get caught out by common hazards on the road then you should wear the consequences. However if a trap has been laid such as a bunch of new seal "just" round the corner out of site then something should or should have been done about it. How many corners do any of us go round regularly making allowance for any possible obstacle we may encounter. Generally an allowance is made for expected conditions based on the general conditions prevailing such as road condition, weather, and traffic. To suddenly find that some arsehole has dug a big ditch or spread slippery stuff out when noone would expect it is criminal in my book irrespective of whether it was some council contractor or some dick spreading diesel to do skids. The consequences for the rider are the same.

[FzerozeroT]

yeah, I don't want to claim cause in 2 years when I want an RG500 :P the insurance company will be dodgy over having had a claim just after i started the insurance with the first bike.

I'm not against the idea of experience, why I am going to the rider training day in taupo on the 16th May.

[Drew]

So,have you learnt something,or are you going to continue blaming someone else for not keeping your eyes peeled.You sound like my mate who was gunna ''do'' the council when he canned it on white lines in the wet.

That sounds like a pretty f##kwit thing to say man!
If you cant see the gravel, on the way in, there is no sign, how are you supposed to know its there.
Look at the damage on the bike, it's not like the guy was riding like a lunatic.
More power to him, the council should pay.