Nicholas rape trial outcome discussion

**scumdog** · 6th April 2006, 22:28

Originally Posted by terbang

A loud and clear message to current coppers about what they can get away with (if they want) and to young girls who wish to report a rape (if they now dare).

I hope this is a wind-up 'cos I sure as hell don't want to be labled with the lowest common denominator - would YOU????

I do confess that I jay-walk now and them and (cough) go a LITTLE faster than I should but that's it, that's the limit of "what I can get away with".

If it's NOT wind-up then its a load of cods-wollop and maybe you should have another think on things.

**Winston001** · 6th April 2006, 22:38

Originally Posted by terbang

A loud and clear message to current coppers about what they can get away with (if they want) and to young girls who wish to report a rape (if they now dare).

Sounds like a troll. But just in case you really believe this, check out the two gentlemen who are currently staying at Her Majesty's pleasure. And their former occupations. And their convictions.

**u4ea** · 6th April 2006, 22:41

Originally Posted by scumdog

I hope this is a wind-up 'cos I sure as hell don't want to be labled with the lowest common denominator - would YOU????

I do confess that I jay-walk now and them and (cough) go a LITTLE faster than I should but that's it, that's the limit of "what I can get away with".

If it's NOT wind-up then its a load of cods-wollop and maybe you should have another think on things.

like i already said,she wanted it they gave it.maybe shes got the guilts about infidelity.cops are still naked under them uniforms and have animal instincs too.a surviver of childabuse myself,i just dont beleive her.something isn;t ringing true.they were all young dumb and full o come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**u4ea** · 6th April 2006, 22:45

Originally Posted by Winston001

Sounds like a troll. But just in case you really believe this, check out the two gentlemen who are currently staying at Her Majesty's pleasure. And their former occupations. And their convictions.

what ??????????tell us more.

**Goblin** · 6th April 2006, 22:58

Originally Posted by u4ea

like i already said,she wanted it they gave it.maybe shes got the guilts about infidelity.cops are still naked under them uniforms and have animal instincs too.a surviver of childabuse myself,i just dont beleive her.something isn;t ringing true.they were all young dumb and full o come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont know how you thought that up. She never wanted ANY of it but she was young and INTIMIDATED by these scumbags. They abused their authority! Fact! Dont compare yourself to LN. The only thing that doesn't ring true here is these scumbags were found not guilty.

**Scorpygirl** · 6th April 2006, 23:00

Originally Posted by u4ea

like i already said,she wanted it they gave it.maybe shes got the guilts about infidelity.cops are still naked under them uniforms and have animal instincs too.a surviver of childabuse myself,i just dont beleive her.something isn;t ringing true.they were all young dumb and full o come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have so far restrained myself on this thread but some people make my blood boil!!!

I am not going to comment on this trial, or the Rotorua pigs at the time... cause I know too much.

But I also brought an historic case to justice and lucky we won.... he pleaded guilty before it came to court. It was shit having to make a statement to the police (thanks Rhino for being by my side) and to have to remember stuff from the past that you put in the back of your memory.

I hug all women that stand up in court to the oppressor!!!

**u4ea** · 6th April 2006, 23:17

Originally Posted by Goblin

Dont know how you thought that up. She never wanted ANY of it but she was young and INTIMIDATED by these scumbags. They abused their authority! Fact! Dont compare yourself to LN. The only thing that doesn't ring true here is these scumbags were found not guilty.

ok .its been a hard discussion and i apologise for upsetting you guys.i am not personally involved with these people concerned and i have voiced some strong opinions.i dont normally throw stones.my grandfather was a cop but he was murdered before i was born so i am on the fence.

**Kickaha** · 7th April 2006, 06:52

Originally Posted by Goblin

Dont know how you thought that up. She never wanted ANY of it but she was young and INTIMIDATED by these scumbags. They abused their authority! Fact! Dont compare yourself to LN. The only thing that doesn't ring true here is these scumbags were found not guilty.

And you can prove all of this how?

Just that I'd be interested in seeing the evidence you must have that is capable of proving your statement

**SixPackBack** · 7th April 2006, 07:13

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10376320

"At the University of Auckland yesterday, more pamphlets were circulated, also containing suppressed information before the issue was debated on the university quad by nearly 100 students who said they supported the Wellington women's cause."

Personally I beleive the pigs raped Wallace with a baton.

**shazzygirl** · 7th April 2006, 07:43

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

I think you have made a pretty big step here!

Theres more support than you think out there!

Paul N

I have been through the system for the last few years, and the support and understanding has been overwhelming. With this support and hard yakka I am going to make it, the light at the end of the tunnel is wide and shining bright.
Yes I have made a big step, and the thoughts of people who care is what lightens the heart and opens the eyes. Thanks

**Goblin** · 7th April 2006, 07:54

Originally Posted by Kickaha

And you can prove all of this how?

Just that I'd be interested in seeing the evidence you must have that is capable of proving your statement

Well where are two of the accused at the moment? The fact they were found not guilty in this case does NOT make them innocent!

Well I know too much so i'm going to shut up before I put my foot in it.

**Lou Girardin** · 7th April 2006, 08:24

Originally Posted by Indoo

Christ what a load of bollocks.

As one of these 'current coppers' I was disgusted by the trial, but I'm even more disgusted by your comments.

Disgusted by the trial? Or disgusted by the cops actions?

I am amused that, apparently, it's Ok for the cops to target crims/paedophiles, et al because "once a crim always a crim".
But it doesn't seem to apply to rapist cops.

**Paul in NZ** · 7th April 2006, 09:07

Folks...

It's a subject that gets us all pretty het up! However, a pretty exceptional thread with some insightfull commentary and genuinely intelligent observations is now in danger of degenerating into complete bollocks!

And yet reading this I think we all agree on more points than we disagree over.

We all agree that something digusting occured, something that is frankly all too common an occurance in nearly all societies and not something that these men, guitly or innocent (legally) and given their proffession at the time should be proud of! Lets NOT confuse justice with the law!!

How about we let this thread continue with intelligent and informative commentary without descending into emotional mud slinging eh! No need for US to behave like animals?

Paul N

**The Stranger:Me** · 7th April 2006, 09:39

Originally Posted by scumdog

I hope this is a wind-up 'cos I sure as hell don't want to be labled with the lowest common denominator - would YOU????

I do confess that I jay-walk now and them and (cough) go a LITTLE faster than I should but that's it, that's the limit of "what I can get away with".

If it's NOT wind-up then its a load of cods-wollop and maybe you should have another think on things.

Please be careful to not include all cops in your statements!!!

In any group/organisation etc there are good and bad, not just the police.

Hell I know an All Black who was bragging of raping a woman. A long standing and well respected AB at that.

Should we disband the AB's? are they all bad people?

no one likes to be included, even if by inference, and particulrly if you find the group despicable.

**The Stranger:Me** · 7th April 2006, 09:52

Originally Posted by spudchucka

I'm not saying anything against her claims, I have no idea whether they are true or false. However I certainly accept that where there is smoke tehre must also be fire (that goes for both sides). I'm just a little surprised at your willingness to toss aside due process regardless what the case may be.

Yeah, but your statement implies that the due process is correct/propper/right etc.