Nicholas rape trial outcome discussion

[Indoo]

Oh and could you please explain how my comments could be more disgusting than 3 men gang-banging a teenage girl with the aid of a police baton..?
BTW thanks for the bling and I also believe that one good turn deserves another..

The fact that your insinuating that cops are corrupt rapists, based on what three idiots did 20 years ago. And somehow you've made the leap of logic that cops have the kind of mentality that they will take this as a message to go out and rape.

I don't know anyone who hasn't expressed utter disgust at that kind of behaviour and has been glad that legally guilty or not guilty they were held accountable for what they did.

I gave you red with my name attached because you wrote something that not only I disagreed with but also found personally extremely insulting. If you want to cry about it go ahead, hell I could have sent you abusive p'ms like you have, but thats what the red rep function is for. Oh and btw I don't care how much green bling you claimed to have gotten for your comments.

[Lou Girardin]

Disgusted by their actions, legally guilty or not.

For once we agree. Don't let it happen again!

[Goblin]

The fact that your insinuating that cops are corrupt rapists, based on what three idiots did 20 years ago. And somehow you've made the leap of logic that cops have the kind of mentality that they will take this as a message to go out and rape.

I don't know anyone who hasn't expressed utter disgust at that kind of behaviour and has been glad that legally guilty or not guilty they were held accountable for what they did.

I dont think it's so much a case of "cops are corrupt rapists" but these particular cops seem to have given themselves permission to rape and knew they will be protected by the organisation they worked for. Like Terbang said in a prevoius post, there should be an obligation to "hold their colleagues accountable for questionable practise. This requires a very high order of professionalism in persons that people place trust upon." So the from outcome of this trial it seems that you can behave in any manner that takes your fancy and you wont be held accountable. The sadest part is they weren't held accountable! They turned it around to make it look like she was some sort of slut.


Have another read through the thread and you will see a couple at least, who believe what they did was all in good harmless fun. ie she asked for it.

[Goblin]

And how did Rickards make it ALL the way to Assistant Comissioner?

[terbang]

The fact that your insinuating that cops are corrupt rapists, based on what three idiots did 20 years ago.

Uh you mis-interprate my posts as that is not my intention though corrupt police are not unheard of in NZ and in this case at least of 3 of them were not exactly bahaving well

I don't know anyone who hasn't expressed utter disgust at that kind of behaviour and has been glad that legally guilty or not guilty they were held accountable for what they did.

Uh did I say otherwise..?
I gave you red with my name attached because you wrote something that not only I disagreed with but also found personally extremely insulting. If you want to cry about it go ahead, hell I could have sent you abusive p'ms like you have,
I sent you no PMs

but thats what the red rep function is for. Oh and btw I don't care how much green bling you claimed to have gotten for your comments.
The point I was making was that others (including coppers) had agreed with me on this issue and yet you reacted in an agressive and unfounded fashion.

I have a few replies above in red and quite frankly I think your reaction reeks of a raw nerve being touched by my comments (I sincerely hope not) and comes across as similar reaction to that of a cornered ferret. As I stated, while returning you the Rep favour, that you appear to be a bitter and twisted rozzer who does your professions image no favours. In hindsight maybe I wrote the post poorly as Scumdog also reacted and put his reasoned opinion forward and gained an explaination and for that I apologise to him. Perhaps, in the interests of providing a balanced debate, if you disagree with a post you could offer your reasoned disagreeance rather than leaping in and declaring someones post a load of bollocks and red repping them.

[Ixion]

We can only speculate but generally an employer couldn't hold a person back from promotion because of unproven allegations. The employer would no doubt end up before the employment court getting sued for $$$$$$$$.

Hm. Debateable in this case. Certainly an employer may not allow unproven allegations to prejudice employment.

But - an employer certainly may make general reputation standing and esteem of collegues part of the criteriaa for considering promtion.

After all , if every cop in land were to say, when asked, "Oh, Bloggs, he's a totally useless deadweight, I've no repect at all for him, don't trust him, wouldn't want to work with him or for him", then I doubt Bloggs's career would go much further .

So, Mr Rickard's continued rise must provide reason to suppose that the most senior levels of the police hierarchy considered his known reputation as a bully , and the rumours circulating about him, would not lessen the esteem his collegues had for him.

They believed , in fact , that the average cop , if asked, would say "Oh, yeah, we know that he's a nasty piece of work, and yeah, I've heard some pretty foul things about, but that's OK , I'm happy to work with him, I reckon he's a good copper". Not saying the average cop DOES think that, but clearly the police top brass thought that was the general consensus. That Mr Rickard's reputation did not in fact lower him in the estimation of his peers.

Which would seem to indicate something very rotten about the collegiate values of the police force.

Their was an old word . Honour. Went with others, like duty. Seems to be forgotten now.

[terbang]

Careful Ixion you might be implying something there..!

[Scouse]

I gave you red with my name attached because you wrote something that not only I disagreed with but also found personally extremely insulting

I suppose you write out parking tickets just as easily as you spread red rep once an officious twat always an officious twat eh Indoo.

[Scouse]

I am amused that, apparently, it's Ok for the cops to target crims/paedophiles, et al because "once a crim always a crim".
But it doesn't seem to apply to rapist cops.

I totaly agree with what you are saying here Lou but I am happy that the Police aply this practice particularly to paedophiles. but there does seem to be a hint of a double standard with some of our KB freinds who are in the force.

[Indoo]

reeks of a raw nerve being touched by my comments (I sincerely hope not) and comes across as similar reaction to that of a cornered ferret. As I stated, while returning you the Rep favour, that you appear to be a bitter and twisted rozzer who does your professions image no favours..

Yeh you did hit a raw nerve, I absolutely despise rapists and strongly believe they should all be castrated upon first offence so they can never repeat the act. I've dealt with a few and seen the horrible pain they inflict upon their victims which literally scars them for life not to mention their family and partners. Rape victims will never get over it, the offenders will and will resume the same crimes upon being released to create even more victims.

When you imply that im part of an immoral corrupt organisation who harbours and supports rapists then like hell I'm gonna take offence. What exactly did you expect?

Perhaps, in the interests of providing a balanced debate, if you disagree with a post you could offer your reasoned disagreeance rather than leaping in and declaring someones post a load of bollocks and red repping them.

If you make a balanced intelligent post then you can expect the same in return. Your post in my opinion was a load of bollocks and hence i red repped you and told you it was me who was red repping you. You've sent me abusive pms in the past, because I disagreed with you, why are you crying now?

[Indoo]

I totaly agree with what you are saying here Lou but I am happy that the Police aply this practice particularly to paedophiles. but there does seem to be a hint of a double standard with some of our KB freind who are in the force.

Wow buddy, just please quote the posts from these KB Freind who have given you this impression.

Can you back up what you claim or not?

[Scouse]

Wow buddy, just please quote the posts from these KB Freind who have given you this impression.

Can you back up what you claim or not?

Just go back to the beggining of the thread there was a comment made "that just because they have been found guilty of this in the past doesnt mean that they are guilty this time" is a double standard when the normal everyday Scumbag gets a visit every time there is a crime that "fits their modus operandi " like I say I am happy that this happens but this pratice should aslo be Extended to the less normal scumbag the sort of scumbag that devalues the credibility of our police force

[terbang]

why are you crying now?

Looks like the only thing that we are both in agreeance is that each other talks a load of bollocks..! Since I don't value your opinion so much Im also very happy to agree to agree on that..!

[Roadrash]

The verdict is in, let go of the rumours and let the peolple get on with their lives, We have courts to judge people, they had all facts and they came to the conclusions. Rumors help no one

[Scouse]

The verdict is in, let go of the rumours and let the peolple get on with their lives, We have courts to judge people, they had all facts and they came to the conclusions. Rumors help no one

Your very welcome to let it go so see ya later if you dont like it you dont have to look