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    found a rather large stash of old photos...

    first pic is a C-130A model... notice how it only has 3 bladed props, and the wing tanks are on the outside of the outtermost engine on each side, not inbetween the two.

    second pic is a formation flyby of 5 DC-3's... something you probably wont ever see again.

    I remember there being a couple of pics of a the Strikemasters doing large fly by (11+ of the things), and i've also got some pics of a F-111 that bit the dust off the end of the runway at Ohakea if anyone wants to see them. Quality is a bit ratty as they are scans of 20+year old negatives, but they are there all the same.
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    where opinion holds more weight than fact.

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    troll

    Troll..... whats up with the red rep on the post of mine were I posted the pics of A??? Munro bike

    Your red rep says "factually incorrect the bike is in NZ", Mate... that pic of that bike was taken 2 weeks ago... in the STATES
    so the fact is its NOT in NZ.

    However I do know that one of Burts 1st bikes is in NZ.... cos I have seen it and FWIW cycletreads in Chch have had one of Burts motors sitting in the frount window for years.

    Ps: the rep thingie says I approve or I disapprove not factually incorrect or correct
    cheers DD
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    Here's another pic I took at the Wanaka 2004 Airshow of a Fokker Dr.1 triplane...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous
    Yes I know, and I agree with you.
    I brought this up on the MG forum, and here is the reply from the guy that posted the pics.

    Dangerous: The first, and most important, thing you need to do is stop thinking the movie is a documentary. It is a fictionalized version of real life. The movie covers thing that happened on all nine trips. The scene where he set the record of 183.586 MPH was in 1967, the incident with the trailer wheel being replaced by a chunk of wood happen on his drive back to LA on his third trip, the incident with the cop on the highway never happened. Condensing a life as rich and exciting as Bert Munro's into 90 minutes requires a LOT of creativity and a willingness to sacrifice truth for beauty. The bike in the pictures I posted is the bike (chassis and body work) that set that record. In my mind that makes it the world's fastest Indian. Your opinion may well be different. The engine is another story, it may be the engine in the bike in NZ is the one that set the records, I don't know. I know he took the engine back and forth, the bike stayed in the US.

    The bodywork on the bike in your picture was replaced (if I understand Marty correctly, the next time I see him I'll ask to be sure) on the first trip. The "triple tail" caused the bike to wobble uncontrollably at the speeds that Bonneville allowed Munro to reach. Marty said Munro just cut off back of the bike and replaced it with part of an aircraft (external) fuel tank. Typical of his direct solutions to problems. Anyway, the triple tail bodywork shows the bike (or at least the body work) in NZ never went fast at Bonneville, it was not possible to ride it at speed.

    Lex


    It seems that there must be a few Munro bikes about. TROLL... see my post on the next page
    True - the car in the movie is a '54 Chev but Burt actually used a '59 or '60 Chev, his Vauxhall in Invercargill was an EIP but in real life there was a PA, there were quite a few 'poetic licence' sections in the moviet.

    BTW If any North Islanders are at Wanaka and want to follow the Clutha river downstream to Balclutha they are welcome to drop in. Just call in at the Mobil garage at the North end of town and ask for me (Just a description of my job/bike/hot-rod is enough) but a PM is best so I know you're coming.

    Oh yeah, got accomodation, bike storage etc if you want to stay.w
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous
    the incident with the cop on the highway never happened.
    well it was included in hana's biography. The ordering of the movie after reading the book made sense as though it wasn't true it did present old Burt in a good light and made for good TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz
    Here's another pic I took at the Wanaka 2004 Airshow of a Fokker Dr.1 triplane...
    I cant remember the year, but anyone remember seeing the Bleriot replica's fly?
    Man it was awesome, the pilot even took both hands of the yoke to wave, both aircraft looked flimsyer than a kite.
    cheers DD
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    Ok you lot here are some more.

    First shot is the (50th?) Anniversary paint up of a TA-4K... how many of you had seen this, or knew it existed?

    Second is a rather large formation of Skyhawks (outsides) and Strikemasters (inside) - Shit i bet that sounded FARKEN AWESOME!

    Third is a shot of an F-111, USAF rather than RAAF i think, that had a double engine flameout just prior to take off at full after burner... note i have drawn an arrow showing where the cockpit pod landed, the canpoy is too small to accomodate an ejection seat, so instead the whole thing separates off!

    Forth is a nice shot of an early RAN Sea Harrier next to an A-4K (pre kahu) taken sometime in the late 70's or very early 80's... judging by the style of clothing

    Last shot is an upclose pic of the ill fated F-111 again.
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    KiwiBitcher
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    Great pics Gareth.

    Did you know that the RAN has just retired the Sea Harriers. They're without a fleet defence fighter until the Joint-Strike Fighter arrives somewhere around 2010 !!
    Theyr'e no better off that our Air-Farce !!!


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    did not know that... they would be what GR.9's now? Thats sad to see. Im sure the tornado will cover that role, just means more work for the fighter jocks.

    I did know they were having a significant resize approx 2 years ago, reducing the entire air force to only 1/3 or so of its size at the time, this included closing bases and dis-banding squadrons. Im not sure how far they are through it at the moment, but the idea was that better weapons (aircraft) meant they didnt need as much to do the same job.
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    Yup, it’s the FA.2 & GR.7/9.

    Tornados won’t be a lot of good unless they have multiple air to air refuels if the Carrier force is way out to sea.

    RAN is suffering the budget cuts just like most nations.
    We did…..


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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz
    We did…..
    Not the NAVY we welcome the Canterbury,Wellington and Otago back in to service over the next few years as a MRV and two OPVs all of which can carry the only offensive piece (in reality) of air asset NZ has, The Sea Sprite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Not the NAVY we welcome the Canterbury,Wellington and Otago back in to service over the next few years as a MRV and two OPVs all of which can carry the only offensive piece (in reality) of air asset NZ has, The Sea Sprite.
    Granted, but referring more to the RNZAF and it's lack of strike capability ,....(cancelled F-16 order etc.)

    Still, Aunty Helen got herself 2 new Jets for swanning around the world in....


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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz
    Still, Aunty Helen got herself 2 new Jets for swanning around the world in....
    they needed them badly, my old man loved the 727's but said himself that they were well past use by for the air force. I think one sold for about $400,000

    The 757 is the fast deployment option for the army... imagine that, grunts get to travel in style before going off to fight.

    And sAsLEX, dont forget the two insure ones too... dunno what they will be called though. However the layout of the MRV looks bloody impressive. Got provision for the four NH-90's and one SH-2G aswell as carrying troops and those stupid bloody LAVIII's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying
    Yep, I've got a video of the last air show at Chch Intl, had an F111 doing a 'flame out' there too. Big mother plane... was about 20 years ago now I guess... So much room there, shame they don't have another. Maybe the USAF is running out of C5s to send over

    Did the WOW a few years ago, definitely worth a look if you like nice snarly noises
    The F-111 does a Dump and Burn.
    All jets have the potential to do a flame out, and it is NOT a good thing to do at an airshow. It is the equicilet of your bike stalling at the lights when trying to impress the chicks in the car next to you.

    There is a high probibility the F-111 pilots are Kiwis, coming for a visit. The truth is they come over lots, but there is no requirement to land for fuel, as they can get back to Oz on the fuel they take off with.

    The Americans have 124 or so C5's left.
    The reason they don't play with us anymore is not because they are running out of aircraft.

    Actually, ask the government why American aircraft don't visit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gareth_d
    Ok you lot here are some more.

    First shot is the (50th?) Anniversary paint up of a TA-4K... how many of you had seen this, or knew it existed?

    Easy, it was the 25th anaversary of the Skyhawk.
    They may be old, but not that old. Yes, I knew it existed. There is also a good photo of it in Bulls Mcdonalds (along with others), if you are ever stopping there.

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