Question of "Not being allowed to"

[Zed]

Well since I started on my wonderful journey into the world of 2 wheels I've met somne fabulous people However I've also met a few men who have said "I'd love another bike but my wife/partner/girlfriend 'won't let me'"

I find this a really interesting comment and just wondered why anyone would wanna be with or get involved with someone who wouldn't give them the freedom to do something they love so much. I know there's lots of different reasons but, for me personally if I ever met a guy who said he 'wouldn't let me ride' my response would be to hop on my bike & ride away as fast as I could!

I suppose that those individuals who are not in or have never been in a serious committed relationship with someone would ever completely understand this comment, therefore it's pointless trying to explain the reasoning behind it because it must be experienced to find out whether or not it would apply in your case!

Some things are far more important than bikes- people for instance. If you are not willing to sacrifice something important to you for someone else then you may never know true love?

Personally, if my wife decided that she was against motorcycles and wanted me to stop riding, then I would! Thankfully she is very considerate and encouraging when it comes to my riding...and I want it to stay that way


Zed

[riffer]

Hmmm. My wife has just kicked me out of the house and got a restraining order out on me so I guess my opinion doesn't really count but I would have to agree with Jim2 on this one.

[James Deuce]

Hmmm. My wife has just kicked me out of the house and got a restraining order out on me so I guess my opinion doesn't really count but I would have to agree with Jim2 on this one.

Oh no!

Need a hand with anything???

[sps996desmo]

it's sometimes a case of wanting to do it for the one you love.
"no greater love doth a man have, then to lay down his bike for the one he loves"
I know it sounds sick, but thats just the way it goes sometimes.
less fun then a

[Zed]

it's sometimes a case of wanting to do it for the one you love.
"no greater love doth a man have, then to lay down his bike for the one he loves"
I know it sounds sick, but thats just the way it goes sometimes.
less fun then a

John 15:13- Good one!

[RiderInBlack]

it's sometimes a case of wanting to do it for the one you love.
"no greater love doth a man have, then to lay down his bike for the one he loves"
I know it sounds sick, but thats just the way it goes sometimes.
less fun then a

The big difference here is WANTING to do so, rather than being TOLD you HAVE TO. Was married to a "HAVE TO, but I'll do what I want". It lasted for 3 1/2 yeras before I got totally sick of it and told her to Lucky for me, we had no kids. That would have made it more difficult. As it goes I got the bike and she got the Pathfinder and we lived happily devorced hereafter.

[DeanOh]

Hmmm. My wife has just kicked me out of the house and got a restraining order out on me so I guess my opinion doesn't really count but I would have to agree with Jim2 on this one.

Bugger!!!

[riffer]

Oh no!

Need a hand with anything???

Well, we're talking at the moment. Best we can do at the moment. We'll see what happens.

Long story. I'll tell you about it one day mate.

[Big Dog]

[b][color=navy]Some things are far more important than bikes- people for instance. If you are not willing to sacrifice something important to you for someone else then you may never know true love?

Zed

But the point is How can you love someone so patently incpable of loving you for who you are?
If it's important to you they have three choices, participate, like it or lump it.

If anyone gives me a ultimatum they don't care about me only the image of me that they have created for themselves.

As stated people do come first.

I sold my bike for the kids once and would again.

I would sell it to fund an op for my pillion or some other such threat.

I will not today or ever sell a motorcycle, or other asset for that matter, just because someone else told me to.

Life and love are about compromise not domination to me, and that is more important than my bike.

[Big Dog]

Since baby bikie came along I refused to carry my (now ex ) wife on the bike with me.
We used to go on the bike a lot together and she doesn't ride.
My thinking is that if I have a big off my son is without 2 parents not just one.
Very fatalistic I know but hey reality is reality.

Same reason I want to get my pillion her own 6L and bike, I hate the thought of taking her pillion after we have kids, let alone tring to fund a 6L at during the diaper stage.

She loves the buzz, but due to a lack of understanding that comes from not having her own lic she makes some very dangerous decisions.

[Big Dog]

I suppose that those individuals who are not in or have never been in a serious committed relationship with someone would ever completely understand this comment, therefore it's pointless trying to explain the reasoning behind it because it must be experienced to find out whether or not it would apply in your case!

I beleive I have found my life's pillion and I still disagree with overgeneralisation based on your personal beliefs rather than global rules of attraction.

[Big Dog]

life's pillion

= She who is along for the ride.
+ She who makes the ride more fun.
+ She who makes decisions that affect us both.
+ She who accepts I will do the same. :sly:
+ She who shares responsibility for our wellbeing.
+ She who will be my pillion for the rest of the journey werever it may take us.

[Hitcher]

The great thing about riding is having a wife/partner/best buddy who loves riding too.

There are lots of selfish pursuits guys can enter into -- golf/cricket/rugby/carpentry/duck shooting/fly fishing/train spotting and motorbike riding could easily become just another one of these for some guys... In those circumstances it's easy to see why their partner could become a bit fraught!

[Angry Puppy]

In answer to the origninal question, I think one needs to look deeper than the statement of 'not allowed' that is being offered. I guess that for a lot of us guys it is easier to say to our mates that we are not allowed than to admit the truth, we can't afford it. Sure, you could stick it on the HP, but would you really be willing to submit you and the one you claim to love to a decrease in cashflow for what is to all intense purposes another toy? I would hope not.

WHat I am trying to say is that most guys will just say that they are not allowed rather than going in to a rather heavy (and probably inapropriate for the time ans place) conversation about school fees, savings, holiday funds, christmas and the like.

Personaly, Mrs Bloke says I can get a second bike, if I am willing to sell the car, because quite simply, we can't afford to keep and run 2 cars and 2 bikes.

Fazer Bloke

[James Deuce]

WHat I am trying to say is that most guys will just say that they are not allowed rather than going in to a rather heavy (and probably inapropriate for the time ans place) conversation about school fees, savings, holiday funds, christmas and the like.

Personaly, Mrs Bloke says I can get a second bike, if I am willing to sell the car, because quite simply, we can't afford to keep and run 2 cars and 2 bikes.

Fazer Bloke

Which is the the bloke being just as disrespectful to the wife, as the wife was to the husband, in the original premise of "not allowed". What a nice thing to do. Tell lies about the person you love, that make them look like an evil ogre because you'e too chicken to say you can't afford to buy a bike.

I was too scared to get another bike for 5 years after my big accident, and by then we had started on trying to have kids, which due to infertility issues ended up costing about $25k per kid. I had no issue saying I couldn't afford a bike to mates who asked about it.

We're uncovering some interesting attitudes in this thread.

My wife doesn't like riding or pillioning on bikes. In no small measure due to an idiot on a stolen bike that hit her when she was crossing the road and put her in a coma for a couple of days. Plus we now have to consider that our kids should probably have at least one parent around.