Question of "Not being allowed to"

[jrandom]

I'm not sure I'd ever refer to any part of my G/F or activity as .... TLRing ??

It's just the cruisers.

I mean, "she lets me ride her Marauder"? Suggestive, that is.

And if Mrs Hitcher started wanting to straddle Hitcher's Intruder, I would be obliged to leave the room. Perhaps it's fortunate that he doesn't have one.

[duckman]

It's just the cruisers.

I mean, "she lets me ride her Marauder"? Suggestive, that is.

And if Mrs Hitcher started wanting to straddle Hitcher's Intruder, I would be obliged to leave the room. Perhaps it's fortunate that he doesn't have one.

Oh ma God, Stop before I piss my pants!! hahahaha

Thats brilliant.

[Hitcher]

And if Mrs Hitcher started wanting to straddle Hitcher's Intruder, I would be obliged to leave the room. Perhaps it's fortunate that he doesn't have one.

I guess it's fortunate that I don't have a "Fat Boy" either??

I think Jrandom needs some psycotherapy...

[jrandom]

I guess it's fortunate that I don't have a "Fat Boy" either??

Yebbut we all know about Harley riders, don't we. I was just referring to the weird Suzuki model name thing. At least they don't use all those 'orrible faux-Italian names like they do for cars.

I think Jrandom needs some psycotherapy...

"He was always bad..."

[Ms Piggy]

Ha ha ha! You peeps crack me up!!

[Ms Piggy]

Oh, and that reminds me - to all you women out there who are happy to get pregnant off some random guy and be a solo mum by choice - a hearty F#*K YOU on behalf of your emotionally-screwed-up fatherless offspring. Do the world a favour and use a condom next time. The children don't deserve the fallout.

Whoa! That's a HUGE gross genralisation matey! My Mum was a solo parent on the DPB & it wasn't b/c she slept with a random guy it was b/c the loser (my Father, well sperm donor) f@#cked off before I was born & then whinged about having to pay $10- a week in child support!

C'mon mate I thought you were a bit more cleverer than that Or is this a personal knowledge you have of women deliberately getting preggers to get the thousands they dole out to solo parents?

[KATWYN]

Wow thats a brave comment to make JR. I think I
would run for cover after saying that. It may not
have been a "choice" as the alternative they may
have faced (in their opinion) may have been veiwed
(by them) as murder.

But hey, the alternative is one less fatherless screw up
in the world..right?

[RiderInBlack]

"He was always bad..."

... since the day he was born." Gee your frist name is not Eddy, jrandom ("let's do the time warp again" ).

[James Deuce]

Whoa! That's a HUGE gross genralisation matey! My Mum was a solo parent on the DPB & it wasn't b/c she slept with a random guy it was b/c the loser (my Father, well sperm donor) f@#cked off before I was born & then whinged about having to pay $10- a week in child support!

C'mon mate I thought you were a bit more cleverer than that Or is this a personal knowledge you have of women deliberately getting preggers to get the thousands they dole out to solo parents?

I know where he's coming from, and I think Fathers are massively under valued in NZ in particular, and Anglo-Saxon Christian culture in general. The Father/provider, Mother/nurturer model is only part of the story.

[James Deuce]

Wow thats a brave comment to make JR. I think I
would run for cover after saying that. It may not
have been a "choice" as the alternative they may
have faced (in their opinion) may have been veiwed
(by them) as murder.

But hey, the alternative is one less fatherless screw up
in the world..right?

It is better to have an opinion than nothing to say at all.

I'm sensing a history in those comments that we aren't privvy to.

[KATWYN]

It is better to have an opinion than nothing to say at all.

I'm sensing a history in those comments that we aren't privvy to.

Yes, I think that came across loud and clear.

[Ms Piggy]

I know where he's coming from, and I think Fathers are massively under valued in NZ in particular, and Anglo-Saxon Christian culture in general. The Father/provider, Mother/nurturer model is only part of the story.

Hey I totally agree with you Jim - in an ideal world families would have good male & female role models but just b/c a child is Fatherless it doesn't make them a screw...I'm ok aren't I!! And I'm sure there are plenty of screwed up kids who had both a Mum & Dad as well. And as Katwyn has said, not all women who are a solo parent feel they had a choice, my Mother certainly didn't & was a damn brave woman to bring up me & my older sister on her own and carve out a career for herself. Yay for my Mum

I think Dad's are really important - I regret not having had a reliable Dad & I know it has affected me...heck maybe I would have got into bikes sooner if I had, who knows aye.

[James Deuce]

Hey I totally agree with you Jim - in an ideal world families would have good male & female role models but just b/c a child is Fatherless it doesn't make them a screw...I'm ok aren't I!! And I'm sure there are plenty of screwed up kids who had both a Mum & Dad as well. And as Katwyn has said, not all women who are a solo parent feel they had a choice, my Mother certainly didn't & was a damn brave woman to bring up me & my older sister on her own and carve out a career for herself. Yay for my Mum

I think Dad's are really important - I regret not having had a reliable Dad & I know it has affected me...heck maybe I would have got into bikes sooner if I had, who knows aye.

I don't think he means your situation at all.

And you're mostly ok - We needs to do coffee sometime - you aren't getting out enough

[Ms Piggy]

I don't think he means your situation at all.

And you're mostly ok - We needs to do coffee sometime - you aren't getting out enough

Heh heh...is it showing? Cabin fever!

Hey JR - wot do ya mean?? I know I can rely on a response from you

[jrandom]

Hey JR - wot do ya mean?? I know I can rely on a response from you

Precisely what I said, and no more. There is a sub-group of women who get pregnant intentionally with no particular plans for involving the father beyond conception and occasional association thereafter. I'm certainly not including truly accidental pregnancies here, and my thoughts were not primarily directed at the cost to the welfare system, although that *is* a problem.

For that matter I know many solo parents who aren't in that position due to choice, and I applaud their bravery and hard work.

The fact *does* remain that a fatherless upbringing disadvantages a child (although 'fatherless' is a hundred times better than a violent, abusive home). I despise the selfishness inherent in a decision to have a child with no regard for that.

A decent marriage with a mother and father prepared to go the long haul should be a basic prerequisite for a sane and conscious decision to have kids. If things don't always go to plan later on, well, nobody's perfect. We just do our best.

And any guy who gets a woman pregnant and skips out would get a re-arranged face from me if I ever ran into him.

Has your opinion of me gone down, CSL? Hopefully it's obvious now that I wasn't referring to anyone in the situation that your mother experienced. And I'm glad you agree that Dads are important...