Question of "Not being allowed to"

**toads** · 20th May 2004, 09:50

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

It's not just the anti father bias but the anti family bias that messing up our country. CYPS can just take children out of a family as happened to a mate because the neighbour made up blatent lies as proved later (much later) but resulted in the marriage splitting over the strain. There was no come back to remedy the situation no concequences for the actions of the worker she was just "following orders".
The stats of mariages lasting are rather dismal these days, I'm blessed with a good wife and family more the grace of God than anything else I guess. My dad split in the 60s mum did a good job bringing us kids up by herself, went without heaps for us, But I wasn't the easiest to keep in line.... one screwed up fatherless kid..... wasn't so common in my days but it appears to be the norm these days. And the government isn't helping with its anti family policies being promoted from a childless she nazi ....just me raving again.....

sorry

Totally agree with you here, in fact I couldn't have said it better

**danb** · 21st May 2004, 10:01

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

Well since I started on my wonderful journey into the world of 2 wheels I've met somne fabulous people

However I've also met a few men who have said "I'd love another bike but my wife/partner/girlfriend 'won't let me'"

I find this a really interesting comment and just wondered why anyone would wanna be with or get involved with someone who wouldn't give them the freedom to do something they love so much. I know there's lots of different reasons but, for me personally if I ever met a guy who said he 'wouldn't let me ride' my response would be to hop on my bike & ride away as fast as I could!

For me is trying to con my parents into letting me get a bike. Hate to think what the chances for me are but some day I will have to let the cat out of the bag. Being still at home and I dont want to get kicked out just yet either as my job wont go so far to pay for the bill's.

We shall see...

**Ms Piggy** · 21st May 2004, 10:20

Originally Posted by danb

For me is trying to con my parents into letting me get a bike. Hate to think what the chances for me are but some day I will have to let the cat out of the bag. Being still at home and I dont want to get kicked out just yet either as my job wont go so far to pay for the bill's.

We shall see...

Hmmmm...yeah this is true. My Mum has always been supportive of decisions, well she doesn't actually any say now anyway b/c I'm 32! Is it the "safety" aspetc of it that makes them anti?

**bungbung** · 21st May 2004, 10:44

Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily

...Is it the "safety" aspetc of it that makes them anti?

Mothers, they're universal... "You'll kill yourself on that thing!"

**Ms Piggy** · 21st May 2004, 10:50

Originally Posted by bungbung

Mothers, they're universal... "You'll kill yourself on that thing!"

It's cos you'll ALWAYS be their baby...mo matter what your age

**danb** · 21st May 2004, 12:46

Originally Posted by bungbung

Mothers, they're universal... "You'll kill yourself on that thing!"

ummm... I think it will be my dad that will be the biggest one to con. He used to ride himself in his younger years. He gave it up becuase he throught it was too dangerious. Mum well I dont know how she will react. I dont blame them really but hey life is full of danger

(Well unless you are a couch potato or something, Even then the roof could cave in

.....)

**Motu** · 21st May 2004, 13:37

My mother bought me my first bike - $60,and I paid her off at $5 a week - a big hunk of my $18 pay packet,$5 board,50c to fill up the Bantam...money to burn! When the bike was payed off I gave her $10 a week.

She may have worried about me,but the only complaints were about the noise I made with open exhausts coming home in the early hours of the morning.

I thought parents let their kids run wild these days?

**riffer** · 21st May 2004, 13:40

Originally Posted by bungbung

Mothers, they're universal... "You'll kill yourself on that thing!"

My mother STILL says that - and I'm 37 now! You'd think after 21 years she'd give up on that line of argument.

of course she said that about the fags and dope too. I guess since I've long given tham the flick she's hoping it'll work on the bikes too.

**toads** · 21st May 2004, 16:06

My kids have all endangered their lives with all sorts of risk taking behaviour, I believe that it is better to make informed decisions and minimise the risk, I have encouraged their dreams, tried to steer them in the safest direction with it too, in the case of young son (16) I have made sure his bike is up to wof standard and safe, and he has a brand new helmet, and a good leather jacket, other than constantly nag him the only thing I can do is hope and pray sensible riding behaviour and the human instinct to survive at all costs will carry him through, it's impossible to "keep them safe" idiocy will never be outlawed!

**Big Dog** · 21st May 2004, 16:40

We must be about the only species that never at any point says to the kids, "right fly!"

Birds push their babies out of the nest to teach them to fly.
Goats abandon their young for a day or two then two or three etc

Male sheep are child abusers, They attack their young (with increasing ferocity) to teach them how to butt back and how to identify danger.

How come as the "most evolved species" we lack this instinctive desire let our young spread their wings?

**James Deuce** · 21st May 2004, 17:27

Originally Posted by Big Dog

We must be about the only species that never at any point says to the kids, "right fly!"

Birds push their babies out of the nest to teach them to fly.
Goats abandon their young for a day or two then two or three etc

Male sheep are child abusers, They attack their young (with increasing ferocity) to teach them how to butt back and how to identify danger.

How come as the "most evolved species" we lack this instinctive desire let our young spread their wings?

I don't think we lack it, I think it has been edited out of western culture.

It used to be that your Dad took you to your first pub brawl (brawl not crawl you poofters), taught you how to crash a car properly and how leer lecherously at women (a very dangerous passtime). Of course the PC brigade have banned that type of behaviour so we're out of luck now.

**Big Dog** · 21st May 2004, 17:54

Originally Posted by Jim2

It used to be that your Dad took you to your first pub brawl (brawl not crawl you poofters), taught you how to crash a car properly and how leer lecherously at women (a very dangerous passtime). Of course the PC brigade have banned that type of behaviour so we're out of luck now.

Hell yeah!

My first pushbike arrived as a frame and a beer crate of parts. "When you are old enough to assemble it, you are old enough to ride it." Consequently two days later I was a menace to society. Three almost major accidents (that would have made millions out of Funniest home movies)after that I learnt how to fit brakes.

Consequently I have grown fairly adept at using the diagnostic equipment in my arse on all sorts of vehicles both two and for wheels, to detect even the slightest weekness in brakes, tyres, suspension.... and at fitting or repairing al;l manner of things.

**scumdog** · 21st May 2004, 20:22

Originally Posted by bungbung

Mothers, they're universal... "You'll kill yourself on that thing!"

My motto about the dangers of riding motorbikes? Ships are safe in the harbour - but that's not what ships are for.

I hope I never have to eat me words

**Big Dog** · 22nd May 2004, 14:56

Originally Posted by scumdog

My motto about the dangers of riding motorbikes? Ships are safe in the harbour - but that's not what ships are for.

I hope I never have to eat me words

So you have never seen Pearl Harbour then?

Perhaps befitting a motorcycle forum maybe you better add that you need to be ready to "put to sea" whenever a japanese vehicle approaches.