No burqas when riding, ok...

[Streetwise]

ok thats out in left field.

[Streetwise]

so i guess you dont own a copy of broke back mountain, hahahaha

[ManDownUnder]

i still think gays are yukky tho........................................

No worries - they quite possibly think the same of you and I - no big deal.

[Ixion]

The whole of the argument misses the point. As far as I am concerned (and I can not see why any one else would differ) , I do not care what anyone does so long as it does not detrimentally affect me or my family. Do what you will , so long as it does not endanger me, cost me money , impinge on MY freedom to likewise do what I want etc etc.

Now, if this headgear (there seems to be a nomenclature issue, I think of bhurka as those tent things that hang down from the top of the head with a little fabric grille thingy to peer through, but most people seem to be talking about the soft head scarf/veil things) affects a driver's vision then that potentially endangers me. I don't like that .

Note, I don't say that it DOES affect vision - I've never worn one, if someone who has says "No, I've tried it and it's not a problem" then I'm happy to accept that.

If it doesn't then I can't see any way at all that someone wearing one , at any time, affects me. What other people wear is none of my business and I don't care.

Simple as that . Vision hazard ? Affects me, puts me in danger, not happy. No vision hazrd , not my business, do what you will. Get police person to try one a few examples of different sorts and report back. Sorted

What concern can anyone else have about it other than that ?

[u4ea]

mm.at the end of the day if we can have other peoples beleifs thrust upon us then this debate woudnt occur.societies do need to be governd by some form or another i guess

[chickenfunkstar]

im not poking my finger just at muslims im poking it at all people who move here from afar and preach, Once here you should follow what is socially acceptable by the masses, Lets forget law, We all break it anyway.

Who defines what 'socially acceptable'? I'd assume that we're both 'kiwis' as are many muslims, but we all have a completly different idea on what is and what is not 'socially acceptable'

[u4ea]

mm.at the end of the day if we didnt have other peoples beleifs thrust upon us then this debate woudnt occur.societies do need to be governd by some form or another i guess,

[kickingzebra]

Soooo, in summary
Gays are bad
Different people are bad
Muslims are bad
Kawasakies are bad
and dont wear burgers while you are riding....

Does that sum it up well enough?
Oh, and viewing brokeback mountain with critical acclaim will see all kiwibiker rights removed.... That is also bad.

I find it real funny how emotional reaction and logical reaction are two differnt things, logic by definition plays the devils advocate with every scenario, whereas emotional reaction refuses to think from any other point of view, but cannot hold its intensity..

BTW the above is a joke, which does not neccesarily mean that all of the above bad things are good things.

[Teflon]

Sad but true...Religion is a great concept misused...

They created religion as a law system to scare and control..

[u4ea]

yep,scary now gays can marry............................................. ......

[Streetwise]

Soooo, in summary
Gays are bad
Different people are bad
Muslims are bad
Kawasakies are bad
and dont wear burgers while you are riding....

Does that sum it up well enough?
Oh, and viewing brokeback mountain with critical acclaim will see all kiwibiker rights removed.... That is also bad.

I find it real funny how emotional reaction and logical reaction are two differnt things, logic by definition plays the devils advocate with every scenario, whereas emotional reaction refuses to think from any other point of view, but cannot hold its intensity..




BTW the above is a joke, which does not neccesarily mean that all of the above bad things are good things.

all is correct but kawasakies arnt that bad, Not as bad as honda,s anyway..

[Streetwise]

They created religion as a law system to scare and control..

that backfired didnt it.

[idb]

Edit: Anyone knows if driving a car while wearing helmets (or, let's make it "full-face motorcycle helmet") illegal? I'm concerned about my safety at times.

Especially with all those half-blind Muslim wimmin driving around!!!

[Marmoot]

Once here you should follow what is socially acceptable by the masses

OMG, wouldn't you wish.......

If that is what we should do, this will be KIWICOROLA.CO.NZ as we'd all be in shabby toyota corolas moving in flow at 50kph max, and creatures such as Fireblades, R1s and Hayabusa would all be extinct.

The greatest thing about Free country is individualism, where you are free to express your individualism, AS LONG AS (as ixion said) you do not infringe on others.
Responsible freedom, that's what we call it.

If burqas are not blocking view, then it should not be banned. If it is, then it should. BUT, it has to be proven scientifically, not just someone in wellington has his knees jerking around from last night's big orgasm.
I.e., if the restricted vision is less than that of a person wearing full-face helmet, then the result of such scientific experiment will surely affect us..........unfortunately.......

I think the whole debacle reported in NZHarold that triggered this thread is a bit PC-driven, which I am sick and tired of. Hence my replies.....

[Streetwise]

its not the vision thats the problem i thought, Its that police dont have the right to ask these woman to remove them when they get pulled over, They have to get a female officer to do that, What a load of bollox.