No burqas when riding, ok...

[OMG]

As are/were every last person here. Length of tenure appears to confer greater rights.

So then you would agree with my previous post that Maori should be ruling the country

[MSTRS:Me]

So then you would agree with my previous post that Maori should be ruling the country

Hell no....note word 'appears'. Belief in it being so, does not make it so.

[Marmoot]

I don't know why the majority of them sand niggers are here anyway?

Why do we not have an Immigration policy that states the following:

Immigration access to New Zealand will only be granted if the immigrant is beneficial to the government through tax payments via a working income.

Immigrants are not eligible for any government assistance once the immigrant has been unemployed for any period exceeding 1 month.

Also, stop allowing immigrants families through the doors FFS!

I'd rather have 100 sand niggers in taxis here than 10 'immigrants from other part of the world' going under health/unemployment/family-assistance benefits



Edit: it is interesting how these remarks come up in burqas-while-driving debate. If I may connect the dots, it seems the debate began from some form of religious or racial prejudice against burqa-wearing people......

[Jantar]

In this whole trhead we appear to have lost sight of the difference between a person's legal or moral duties, their obligations, their rights and their priviledges.

To Moslem woman wearing her burqa is a religious and therefore a moral duty. Here in New Zealand we have no such legal requirement, but we also have no law forbidding her from wearing it. Therefore in most situations wearing a burqa is her right.

We do have laws requiring that in some situations a person must be able to be identified. In these cases a moslem woman may not wear her burqa. In other words there is a conflict between her legal duty and her religious duty. Our law is based on the Wesminster model where legal law outweighs religious law and so, when such a conflict arises, the requirement to be identified outweighs the religious requirement to wear the burqa. If a moslem woman is at all worried about the need to be identified, then she has the option to avoid those situations. She doesn't have to walk into a bank wearing a burqa, she can stay at home and let her husband do the banking. She doesn't have to drive a car, she can be a passenger while her husband drives etc.

Driving a car, or riding a bike, is another level. It is not a requirement, it is not even a right. It is a priviledge. Moslem women who wish to drive should recognise that fact, and realise that if they wish to have that priviledge of driving, then they also have a duty to be identifiable, and that means ... NO BURQA.

[OMG]

Hell no....note word 'appears'. Belief in it being so, does not make it so.

So what is it then? If length of tenure does confer greater rights then you must agree that Maori should have more rights than those who arrived at a later date. If length of tenure does not confer greater rights, then those who wish to wear burqa have equal right to do so no matter how long they have been here.

[Hitcher]

I cannot believe the venom in some of these threads. So there are about 20-odd women in New Zealand who choose to wear a full burqa. That's hardly the end of our world as we know it.

List the top 10 events likely to cause a cataclysmic disaster in this country. Some bird in a burqa is unlikely to make the top 100. Get over it.

[Streetwise]

When i started this thread it was a bit of a joke, Thats why i put in the line NO RIDING WHILE WEARING A BERKA. although my personal view came through pretty strongly as it does once the conversation has started. it has got a tad heated in here and that was not the intension of the forum, If anyone in here has been offended by anything that has been posted please accept my oppologies,

[Marmoot]

no worries.
A bit of debate makes a day more exciting. At least it didn;t get up to mudslinging and smear-campaign.....

Unlike somewhere else in the capital............

[OMG]

It's funny how threads evolve. Still it is good for people to have an opinion, and to have a forum when debate can take place, though I agree that care is needed. I've certainly enjoyed debating points with MRTRS (and hope that I have not offended anyone in the process).

[Lou Girardin]

I cannot believe the venom in some of these threads. So there are about 20-odd women in New Zealand who choose to wear a full burqa. That's hardly the end of our world as we know it.

List the top 10 events likely to cause a cataclysmic disaster in this country. Some bird in a burqa is unlikely to make the top 100. Get over it.

The power of propaganda. Demonise a sector of humanity and it won't matter if you massacre them.

[Limb]

God of nations! at Thy feet
In the bonds of love we meet,
Hear our voices, we entreat,
God defend our Free Land.
Guard Pacific's triple star,
From the shafts of strife and war,
Make her praises heard afar,
God defend New Zealand

Men of ev'ry creed and race <<<<
Gather here before Thy face,
Asking Thee to bless this place,
God defend our Free Land.
From dissension, envy, hate,
And corruption guard our State,
Make our country good and great,
God defend New Zealand.

Anyone remember this?

[kickingzebra]

Labour party wants it re written don't they??
Still implies that God is the uniting factor...

[Ixion]

We want it re-written

The people's flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts blood dyed its every fold.

Then raise the scarlet standard high. (chorus)
Within its shade we'll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We'll keep the red flag flying here.

[Marmoot]

Labour party wants it re written don't they??
Still implies that God is the uniting factor...

This government insist that we be a secular country.
So, I guess the word God has to go away.
Same as when they abolish the prayers in Parliament meetings, and the ban on praying in public schools.

Welcome comunism

Ixion is right. Just a matter of choice between svastika in the center or hammer&sickle in the corner, aye?

[MSTRS:Me]

It's funny how threads evolve. Still it is good for people to have an opinion, and to have a forum when debate can take place, though I agree that care is needed. I've certainly enjoyed debating points with MRTRS (and hope that I have not offended anyone in the process).

I'm offended.....you spelt my name wrong. Bad boy - there's a stool and pointy hat waiting for you in the corner....
Just to clarify my position...all citizens of this country should be equal with no special privileges accruing to any one group for any reason. And foreign diplomats who commit crime(s) here should not have immunity. And truckies - if you have a delivery for an Exclusive Brethren company and they ask you to turn your radio off, ask them how badly they want their stuff. And life should mean life. And...and...and....