how is a wheelie/stoppie breaking the law?

**bugjuice** · 7th April 2006, 13:32

if you stop quick at the lights and the back comes up, or the front wheel lifts off the ground from accelerating, or you're bloody good, and just leave the front wheel up, all whilst under 50kph or whatever the posted speed limit is, then what law is it breaking?

it's not 'out of control' (far from it if it's on purpose), it's not wreckless, may be a bit 'boi racerish' to some degree, it's not endangering anyone etc etc.. so would ya still get hassled?

**Sparky Bills** · 7th April 2006, 13:36

They are classed as "dangerous to yourself and or the public"

or somthing like that arnt they??

I think this is a question for the pi... oh ummm i mean the cops on this site

(am just kidding there by the way. Hope you see the funny side

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**COP_B8** · 7th April 2006, 13:38

Haha, Just think of it as entertainment tax.

**sAsLEX** · 7th April 2006, 13:38

Sustained Loss of Traction

thank the wankers in the rotors

**KLOWN** · 7th April 2006, 13:43

it IS considered as dangerous cause if you fuck it up you likely to do damage to someone, even if its just yourself. If wheelies/stoppies are ok then drifting around the streets are ok too, because your not out of control, its a CONTROLED skid. Its all in your perspective, how does the cop know that your a master at wheeling/stoppies and not just some fool who did it by accident.

**Fishy** · 7th April 2006, 13:43

A mate of mine got arrested on the spot for pulling a wheelstand across the Grafton Bridge. They took him away and left his bike on the side of the road and charged him with reckless driving. He lost his licence for 3 months and got fined too.

**Marmoot** · 7th April 2006, 13:43

reduced control over your bike (try swerving a child running across your path, or emergency braking when someone accidentally cuts you off) and you run much less chance of coming out unscathed.
That is why it is considered 'reckless', or sometimes 'dangerous'

A bit similar to speeding, but without special section in law book.

**bugjuice** · 7th April 2006, 13:44

Sustained Loss of Traction is wheel spinning.. or a burnout. I can understand that (for what it's worth)..

and Sparky, if it were 'dangerous to yourself and or the public', then surely you wouldn't consider doing it, would you..?? I wouldn't..

**SimJen** · 7th April 2006, 13:47

Take a look in your mirrors and all around first, then just do it anyway.
Wheelies are good for you, they help burn calories and make you look cool.
You get double points if the wheelie starts from 100km/hr +

**Sniper** · 7th April 2006, 13:49

Apparently its classed as dangerous driving?

**Marmoot** · 7th April 2006, 13:49

Originally Posted by bugjuice

and Sparky, if it were 'dangerous to yourself and or the public', then surely you wouldn't consider doing it, would you..?? I wouldn't..

Good on ya then. But the government assume 99% of the public are not like you. And there is a principle of 'it is better to be safe than sorry', which is useful especially if it generates revenue too.

Same as speeding. A 1988 battered old Nissan with crappy tyres being ticketed at 111kph in Motorway is probably well-deserved. But Ferrari Enzo will also be ticketed in similar situation, which is probably undeserved. However, Law operates on Lowest Common Denominator principle.

**bugjuice** · 7th April 2006, 13:53

Originally Posted by KLOWN

it IS considered as dangerous cause if you fuck it up you likely to do damage to someone, even if its just yourself. If wheelies/stoppies are ok then drifting around the streets are ok too, because your not out of control, its a CONTROLED skid. Its all in your perspective, how does the cop know that your a master at wheeling/stoppies and not just some fool who did it by accident.

you can be cruising on two wheels and still fuck up on a patch of oil or diesel. Kinda see ya point tho..

simjen, it kinda popped into my head to ask, cos I nearly popped a wheelie last night past some parked cars. Didn't think much of doing it, just was gonna. Then something didn't feel right, so I aborted without trying. Just as I got to the end of the parked cars, there was an unmarked cop sat there..

MM, I understand about the 'lowest common' thingia, i guess it just sucks..

**Marmoot** · 7th April 2006, 13:56

Originally Posted by bugjuice

MM, I understand about the 'lowest common' thingia, i guess it just sucks..

totally.........

I'm still hoping for a Special License Endorsement for Higher Speed, or a refined graduated license system with Learner - Restricted - Full - Expert
which will allow 30kph increase in speed in Motorways and Open Roads.

**Lou Girardin** · 7th April 2006, 13:57

Most of the time it's carless driving - "not the actions of a prudent driver".
If the speed or other factors warrant it, the charge may be 'manner dangerous'.
The reality is that your braking, and/or evasive abilities are limited with only one wheel on the road.
If some cager pulls out in front of you, would you rather hit the brakes instantly or have to drop the front wheel then hit the brakes?
No brainer really.

**COP_B8** · 7th April 2006, 13:58

Originally Posted by Marmoot

totally.........

I'm still hoping for a Special License Endorsement for Higher Speed, or a refined graduated license system with Learner - Restricted - Full - Expert
which will allow 30kph increase in speed in Motorways and Open Roads.

With a big Yellow E plate on the back of your bike!