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    GPS and policeman question

    ok. So I got meself a GPS for the bike. Great things they are too. Now I always know where I am.

    I actually got it for the recording functions of it like top speed, avg speed, distance travelled and things like this.

    Not the question is .. If I get pulled over doing say 120 and Mr policeman sees my GPS reading a top speed of 160ish can he book me for it?

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    Not really

    Claim you went to a track day and haven't reset the stats yet.

    he ain't likely to go and find out where you did 160 km/h (digging in the GPS records), and it ain't a certified measurement device for their records..
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    He can't use it unless you intend to use the data to defend a ticket. Once you introduce the record as evidence then the court can ask to see the entire record. Remember that part of the record includes timestamp and location, so only use GPS if you are sure that the entire record will support your case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz
    ok. So I got meself a GPS for the bike. Great things they are too. Now I always know where I am.

    I actually got it for the recording functions of it like top speed, avg speed, distance travelled and things like this.

    Not the question is .. If I get pulled over doing say 120 and Mr policeman sees my GPS reading a top speed of 160ish can he book me for it?
    He can't and he won't, and didn't you do that on that private racetrack you were on a few hours prior?

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    that is good then. pretty unlikely but with my luck you never know. Even down to a checkpoint as the GPS is in clear view and the numbers are right there. I dont want to be scrambling to turn it off looking dodgy to have them check the unit for what I was doing on the back roads.

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    Yep they aren't allowed to look thorugh it. On a seperate question are they accurate for speed and location?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamytus50
    Hmm it could be viewed as being personal information, that is hes not really entitled to look at it without a warrant...same as your not allowed to have your cellphone gone through.
    how would you know? arent you a school janitor? *cough* hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanity_rules
    Yep they aren't allowed to look thorugh it. On a seperate question are they accurate for speed and location?
    yes and no, if they have a few sats in view yes, but in urban environments you get problems, but that said they will put you accuratly within a few meters most of the time on the open road and the speed is more likely more accurate than your speedo

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    yes and no, if they have a few sats in view yes, but in urban environments you get problems, but that said they will put you accuratly within a few meters most of the time on the open road and the speed is more likely more accurate than your speedo
    I wouldn't necessarily trust them for instantaeous speed, but for an average they're pretty good. As sAsLEX says, in urban environments they can be tricky as they'll be picking up signals reflected off buildings as well as direct so if you were to plot the reported position you will see some sideways jumps and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    I wouldn't necessarily trust them for instantaeous speed, but for an average they're pretty good. As sAsLEX says, in urban environments they can be tricky as they'll be picking up signals reflected off buildings as well as direct so if you were to plot the reported position you will see some sideways jumps and stuff.

    What type have you got?
    actually the signals associated with GPS have mechanisms in them to ignore reflected signals

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    actually the signals associated with GPS have mechanisms in them to ignore reflected signals
    They try, but "multipath" is still one of the biggest headaches for GPS systems in urban areas.
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    yes he can

    seize it as an exhibit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    They try, but "multipath" is still one of the biggest headaches for GPS systems in urban areas.
    A bigger headache is signal drop out completly, they have done urban location using cell phone tech but obviously that wont work in hostile terrirtory, best bet is an Inertial NAv unit that updates when GPS is in range

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    Aside from questions of whether the police have the right to obtain or use the information from the GPS unit, they would also need to prove that the unit was attached to your bike at the time that reading was taken.

    Ask Skelstar what would have happened had he been pulled after his GPS arrived back on his old Hyosung 250 with 230k as the top speed. Do you seriously think it could have been done on that bike, your honour?
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    it is a garwin etrex el-cheapo unit from DSE. $230. Records paths, top speed , avg speed overall, avg speed while moving, distance, ETA on waypoint, Expected time of arrival at waypoint. Can store 100 or so waypoints or something. More than I need. It doesn't have a map or anything so you cant ask it where a town is but that just seemed pointless to me as they measure the distance as the crow flys which is alot shorter than any route I am going to take. Seems as accurate as my car speedo and my bike speedo is about 7k out on the high side. Using it for cheating at golf to tell me how far the away the green is and it seems to be bang on. I am really happy with the unit for a cheap one.

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