So what are YOUR issues.

**parsley** · 12th April 2006, 22:52

Originally Posted by Marmoot

Covered sexy breasts

The key word here being sexy. We don't want any unsexy breasts being uncovered! Ugh...

**White trash** · 12th April 2006, 22:58

My issue

There needs to be an entry level, no modification class in national level road racing.

"Big Dave for PM"

**Big Dave** · 12th April 2006, 23:53

Originally Posted by White trash

"Big Dave for PM"

Personal message...?!??

**Marmoot** · 13th April 2006, 01:07

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Feel free to go topless around me?

*ahem* I said 'breasts', not 'beasts'

**Brian d marge** · 13th April 2006, 02:51

I agrre with ixon here ( the greenun )except for the bits in red ...
ACC: (1) why separate out bikes.One single vehicle pool, every vehicel pays the same
Cause bikes tend to be injury accidents and in a users pays ( someone voted for it ,,,) you chose to ride ,thats the cost , dont like it dont ride ...OR dont fall off...( ie ride defensively ) bit blunt but thats the facts.

(2) Levies based on licence holder not vehicle . If you own more than one vehicle (eg cage and bike) you pay full rego and ACC on each, even though only one used at a time.
Completely agree her , Nice try helen but thats revenue grabbing !

White paint on roads

At least use shell mix which is super grippy, I know you are on a tender , but sometimes price aint the be all and end all

Motorway bus lanes - bring Transit to heel

yup bikes are small and dont get in the way, rather the other way round....( except the danger of undertaking other vehicles ,,thats the only danger I can see about bus lanes

70kph limit and 250 cc limit (should be approved list or HP). Simpler easier intro for young folk. Make it easier to start on two wheels instead of 4.

except Hoodies , who should be made to work in a social responsible enviornment for at least five years

Police to police for driving behaviour instead of revenue gathering

Agreed, here in Japan I saw the police spring into action the second time in five years. the first was my speeding ticket , 4 years ago the second was last nite when a japanese hoodie , was driving up a one way street the wrong way ....completely ignoring the other road users ....

Lane splitting. Follow the UK rules.

wing mirrors are fair game in love and splitting

And what Mr Motu siad. Seriously. Too much money spent on making roads "easy" for brain dead idiots to drive on. Concentrate money on selected highways (for said idiots), don't spend money on back roads 9so they stay fun, for us)
Increased driver training on par with germany and repeated when you renew your ticket .....
That'll do to start with.

(Oh, and nationalisation of the means of production, finance, and distribution, with legislative control vested in workers' soviets. But that can wait till the mext meeting)

Sorry, works in theory but forgets mans greed. a basic flaw in all men ,

Stephen
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**SARGE** · 13th April 2006, 07:34

Originally Posted by Big Dave

No rants - just 1 sentence or so please - what are the motorcyclists issues you want addressed by the Govt?

Mine are:
Hands free phones and the road surfaces/loose seal warnings.

I don't fully understand the ACC levies injustice thing yet - someone may like to summarise that.

What would you like to see us/we/them pick up and run with?

dc

roundabouts with decorative pea-gravel for the flowerbeds.. ( Dominion rd and Richarson rd) cars and busses cut the corner and scatter gravel everywhere..

also.. LOW SULFER DIESEL.. fix the problem already..

ACC Levys.. sort them out.. put everything on petrol.. make dirtbikes pay a levy.. watercraft also.. horses and rugby players too..

**Fishy** · 13th April 2006, 09:00

Originally Posted by Sniper

Motorcycle speed discretion

Yep agree with this one!. Tickets for 61, 61 and 63kph (which I have had tickets for) in a 50k zone are just outright revenue collecting.

**kiwifruit** · 13th April 2006, 09:04

Originally Posted by CaN

Road engineering - Paint standards - Metal lids etc.

Raise speed limit for bikes to 200kph on open road.

+1

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**Sniper** · 13th April 2006, 09:10

Originally Posted by Fishslayer

Yep agree with this one!. Tickets for 61, 61 and 63kph (which I have had tickets for) in a 50k zone are just outright revenue collecting.

True, but Im thinking open road speeds where there are few cars, motorcycles can quite happily cruise at 120+kph cause they are built for speed. In built up areas I don't really expect it as there is more risk to the rider in hitting things.

**MSTRS:Me** · 13th April 2006, 09:12

My contribution....
Drop the 70kph on Learners
10pm extensions can be applied for, for work purposes (say)
Lift the open road speed limit to 120kph
Greater enforcement of inconsiderate driving (ie the 70-80kph drivers on the open road)
ACC levies go on fuel
Add 3rd party insurance levy to fuel (would fix a huge can of worms)
Add gloves, jacket to protective gear requirement
'Sandpaper' finish on all metal covers
True non-slip paint markings
All air hoses at servos to be bike friendly
More later if I can think of any.....

**Squeak the Rat** · 13th April 2006, 09:43

Most have been done:

Low sulphur diesel! (good point Sarge, there are almost as many deaths by vehicle emission pollution than crashes but what's done about it? Nothing. Why? It generates no revenue!)
Validation of motorcycling as an accepted form of transport
Campaigns to educate motorists
Rebates/discounts for taxes used for roading, congestion etc due to lower impact of motorcycles
Road design
Direct access for new riders over 25 (1 week course on 500cc = full licence)
More granularity in ACC accident categories (what Frosty said)
More bike specific parking
Low-slip road paint
Specifically allow lane splitting (ie. don't ask for clarification)
Reduced ACC levies for two vehicles

**The_Dover** · 13th April 2006, 09:57

Originally Posted by SARGE

horses and rugby players too..

I think you will find that the clubs pay a fairly hefty ACC levy which covers any teams they field in a competition.

Whacking ACC levies on a bunch of bros having a kick around in the park ain't gonna work.

**SARGE** · 13th April 2006, 10:08

Originally Posted by The_Dover

I think you will find that the clubs pay a fairly hefty ACC levy which covers any teams they field in a competition.

Whacking ACC levies on a bunch of bros having a kick around in the park ain't gonna work.

well neither is whacking it on a bunch of bikes gonna work.. why not just have everyone fill out a questionairre detailing your danger-rating..

$55 per year per dangerous thing you do.. driving , golf, swimming in a public pool would be a few of those..

riding a motorcycle, surfing, horseback riding, sports, and tramping are $100 each per year..(each)

skydiving and talking back to the wife are $200 a year... each

user pays..

**Oscar** · 13th April 2006, 10:11

Originally Posted by Big Dave

No rants - just 1 sentence or so please - what are the motorcyclists issues you want addressed by the Govt?

Mine are:
Hands free phones and the road surfaces/loose seal warnings.

I don't fully understand the ACC levies injustice thing yet - someone may like to summarise that.

What would you like to see us/we/them pick up and run with?

dc

Motorcyclist Graters:
Lane dividers made out of steel cable.