So what are YOUR issues.

**Marmoot** · 14th April 2006, 14:22

+1 on Bikes to use Motorway Bus Lanes

**Highlander** · 14th April 2006, 14:31

Originally Posted by Drum

I also have more than one vehicle and therefore pay levies more than once, but what if you had two teenagers, both with cage and bike licenses. Would you expect to pay more than you already do? And if so, how could it possibly be calculated and managed? Just a thought - I'd still like to pay less though!

I got two cages I am not allowed near (unless the fuel warning light is on or they need washing

) and a bike, so pay three fees. Pay by the Km would probably be the fairest split that covers actual usage regardless of it being a daily drive or sunny Sunday arvo blat (more use = higher fee). Don't know how you'd wrap the off roaders up in that though.

Otherwise, get rid of the 70 Km thing being forced to travel slower than the rest of traffic when you are already vulnerable (sp?) is dangerous.
Trucks have a lower open road limit 'coz of their size, how about a higher limit for bikes?

**Jantar** · 14th April 2006, 14:38

Originally Posted by Highlander

.... Pay by the Km would probably be the fairest split that covers actual usage regardless of it being a daily drive or sunny Sunday arvo blat (more use = higher fee). Don't know how you'd wrap the off roaders up in that though.

Simple solution. Charge ACC levies as a surcharge on fuel purchases. More fuel = greater distance travelled (or less fuel efficient vehicle, so make the bastards pay anyway).

**Highlander** · 14th April 2006, 14:40

Originally Posted by Jantar

Simple solution. Charge ACC levies as a surcharge on fuel purchases. More fuel = greater distance travelled (or less fuel efficient vehicle, so make the bastards pay anyway).

Works for me.

Wondered if you were working today - we must be on the same shifts.

**WINJA** · 14th April 2006, 14:43

i think rego's should only be $10 a year and petrol and diesel should be 15 cents a litre more instead.
it would be better for people who may only do 1000km and worse for me who does about 1000km a week but its still fairer , also when rich fuck boatys fill up they can then contribute to acc , same with people using powered machinery of any kind.
i hate everyone fuck you all

**gunnyrob** · 14th April 2006, 14:47

I agree with Jantar. ACC should be charged thru fuel use. Make those with fuel ineffceint vehicles rethink things.

other issues:

No tolls or congestion charges for bikes
More free parks for bikes
No cheese cutters
Let us use bus lanes

**Highlander** · 14th April 2006, 14:49

Originally Posted by gunnyrob

I agree with Jantar. ACC should be charged thru fuel use. Make those with fuel ineffceint vehicles rethink things.

other issues:

No tolls or congestion charges for bikes
More free parks for bikes
No cheese cutters
Let us use bus lanes

Just park on the foot path like they do in Melbourne.

**Fluffy Cat** · 14th April 2006, 15:31

ACC crap, why do i have to pay for all my bikes when i can only ride one at a time. Money grabbers.

**kevie** · 14th April 2006, 22:56

did anyone pick up on the latest census >> on the paper for teh dwelling it asked "vehicles at your disposal" EXCLUDING MOTORCYCLES

yet >>>>>> in the personal one it asked how you travelled to work on that Tuesday and one of the options was motorcycle.

One paper they dont aknowledge them and other they do.

**kevie** · 14th April 2006, 23:05

I agree re ACC too, They penalize us for riding bikes, when around 80% of motorcycle accidents arent the motorcyclists fault, and many of the bike riders that are injured are on unregistered bikes EG: farmbikes and MX/scramblers beach hoppers and those that register pay for them.

When I was an ambo and used to attend them and on the ACC form it asked "was a motor vehicle involved? ...YES
Location of accident :street: many times this portrayed and gave impression the accident was a RTA (road traffic accident) when in fact it wasnt... automatically ACC slaps it onto our rego.
My Recomended solution is that they request rego # of vehicle so they can check it was registered or wether it was an offroader.

**Skyryder** · 16th April 2006, 20:13

I've just skimmeded the posts so I may have missed this.

For me the most serious issue for bikers is the instant loss of licence at roadside. Everything else pales in signifcance. There once was a time if you were stranded on the road the police would assist you. Not now. The Police now have the power to leave you there. This one piece of legislation is what defines the way we were and the way we are. We need to get some values back into our country.

There should be a mandatory period of say 24 hours before you need to hand you licence over. This would enable time to get home and not be left stranded on the road.

Skyryder

**Shadows** · 17th April 2006, 21:21

Discontinue use of plain tar seal from intersections, braking areas, roundabouts etc. and replace this with chip seal like the rest of the road. Stupid tight arsed penny pinching idea that was.

"Gripperise" manhole covers etc.

Mandatory use of non slip paint.

More regular and thorough road surface inspections.

More focus on timely completion of roading projects.

Remove cheese cutters.

Remove obstacles from road edges to create a buffer zone if things go pear shaped.

Remove 70km speed restriction for learners.

Disallow tinted rear windows or anything else which obscures clear sight through from the rear of a vehicle out that vehicle's windscreen for the vehicle following.

Come down more heavily on fuckwit behaviour rather than concentrating on speeding alone.

Mandatory defensive driving / advanced vehicle handling course (read - skid pad etc.) as part of licensing process for new drivers.

Enforce "left lane unless passing" rule.

Enforce "impeding traffic flow" rule.

Enforce "give way" rules

Enforce "careless driving" rules re cellphone use etc.

Ban the reversing out of drive ways onto the road.

Enforce the use of indicators.

Banning the use of temporary speed limit signs for the sake of a road cone or two on the shoulder, provided the road is clear people should be able to remain in their lane and maintain a reasonable speed. Mandatory removal of such signs when road is clear and work is not proceeding such as on weekends or after hours.

Increase some area speed limits to 120km.

International drivers to pass test in basic English and satisfactorily pass scratchy test before being allowed to drive.

Fire the current roading engineers and hire some people with brain cells, preferably people with experience in race track design.

All SUVs to fail warrant of fitness inspection if vehicle has no bush marks or dents in belly pan. Childseat or evidence of woman driver = automatic failure.

**terbang** · 17th April 2006, 21:27

Better Training

**beyond** · 17th April 2006, 22:41

The use of the Shoulder on the motorways, when in peak traffic and up to a certain speed limit. Reduces the danger of filtering and encourages the use of motorbikes for commuting.