Beginners' guide to runners

[DingDong]

Very entertaining read, all I can say is... choose your moment, running in urban areas... it too dangerous and not for me, on the open road... I'll seriously consider my options.

[sels1]

Thats a whole lota info I didnt need to know but thanks for sharing

[Timber020]

Another Kiwibiker sent me this via email and asked me to post it-






<1,Dont race them,chances are they will win,they have the numbers and alot of opportunity to get you,and you have so many opportunitys to fuck up and if you do its not worth it,its really really not worth it.Think about this now,think about the consaquences now while at your computer.>

<2,Ignore the vehicle your racing and the fact that you are racing,just like when your leading a race, the last thing you want to be thinking about is the machine chasing you.If your thinking about how well he is doing then thats concentration you need to keep your shit together.>

<3,Dont ride any faster than you normally would while racing.Heck ride at 80%, it should still be fast enough to win the race and nobody who crashes in races wins them.Just because your in a race,doesnt turn you into Aaron Slight.Actually it probly makes you less of a rider as your in flee mode, not race mode.>

<4,Your faster in straight lines and in confined areas.Like to narrow for race cars to get through.Your not faster through twisty areas,infact you havent the braking or cornering speed to win this one a twisty track.To race cars keep it on the long and fast tracks like manfield, not like the old taupo track with little other racers.or take them through the pits where race cars are in long lines on the grid waiting to get on the track or moving slowly,you wont have to go faster than usual>

<5,know when your done,better to pull into pit lane early than not finish the race

<6,avoid getting your photo taken while racing.Pit lane may have security cameras and there might be photographers who want payment for publicity shots.you might end up in the paper.sometimes its good to be famous,sometime it isnt.

<7,dont go home after racing,its much nicer after a good track day to go to a friends place to calm down and unwind.

<8,dont take racing litely,it could ruin the rest of your life or someone else.Pick your bike,evaluate your compatition,and see the track conditions are right for you.

[Qkchk:Me]

Interesting read.

People are intitled to their own opinion, so good one for having the balls to open a huge debate.

[Edbear]

Interesting read, well written and quite a few reasons for not trying to do something so silly as a "runner"! Apart from the fact that I don't consider myself to have the necessary skill on the bike, I also tend to be law abiding. I hope your experiences have taught you it's just not worth the risk and aggro from the law. We can get our thrills without undue risk either to ourselves or others if we use that kilo of grey matter upon our shoulders.

[Ducman]

Quite possibly the stupidest fucken post I've ever read on here. If you're not into masturbation, and don't want to tell the world about your "runners" why the fuck would you post them on a public forum?

You're a cock and I wouldn't mind seeing a video coz I think you're so full of shit,

Come on trash settle down. If you read through the post it brings up more reasons not to do a runner than for it.. The decision to run has to be taken quickly and probably without thinking through the consequences, I have to admit I hadn't completely excluded the idea of doing a runner.. until now, put down in black and white it doesn't look so attractive.

[White trash]

Sorry. How's the womans family who got killed when her car was hit by some wanker on a the Triumph failing to stop going to feel about "runners"?

Or the four year old girl killed when a car carreered through a forecourt of a service station. Funny. Seem to remember that being chased by the cops too.

Any WANKER that raves on about how cool he is coz he baits cops and paints his bike so he can be "Ghost riders" wannabe, is just that. A wanker and a wannabe. I have "failed to stop". I don't post about how cool I was for doing it. I certainly didn't bait cops into chasing me, then after they stopped a heap of my "mates" brush it off with a "Sorry, wont happen again" then post this fucken dribble.

I'll take a BMW R1150. You take your ghost rider/try hard Kumandsukme and I'll challenge you on any road/track when suits you. It's neither big nor clever. You ever hurt anyone I know, you better be in a pretty bad state yourself.

(For the record) I couldn't care less who does/doesn't stop for the cops. It's your choice. People that want to wank on about how cool it is give me the shits and deserve the time of day.

[Toast]

Very entertaining read, all I can say is... choose your moment, running in urban areas... it too dangerous and not for me, on the open road... I'll seriously consider my options.

Exactly.

If you want to seriously consider doing a runner, you can't let adrenaline get the better of you. You want to be riding at the higher end of your normal, comfortable pace. If this is higher than a bored cop going nutso in his Commie, then you can consider it.

In an urban area, the comfortable, safe-ish pace is lower than out on the open road due to more frequent driveways, parked cars, moving cars, pedestrians, etc.

Basically the cops seem to just ignore all of this shit, so you're at the disadvantage if you run in an urban area. This is why it's very wise to be an extra good kiddie on motorways and in urban areas (although it gets harder to be an angel after a hard day at work), and save the quicker stuff for the safer country roads, or better yet, a racetrack if you're lucky enough to be able to get along there.

[Oscar]

Normally I wouldn't bother reading shit like this because it's the usually illiterate raving of some P fuelled moron, however this post is a dangerous ego fuelled wank by someone who appears to have had (& wasted) a reasonable education...

One of the problems of being a motorcycle enthusiast is that the authorities, other road users and world in general see us as one group.

This really burns me up – now I get to be classed with Accountants who think Harleys make them tough, spotty wankers who think that that the latest sports bikes make up for them being 25 year old virgins, dickhead teenagers riding unmuffled pitbikes through the suburbs, and now: this guy.

Tell you what, Hero-boy – what don’t you do us all a favour and get it over with. Get yerself killed or incarcerated, you’ll get your 100 words on page three and the world will be a better place without you.

You see, then I won’t have to defend the actions of “You Bikers” so much anymore.

Oh, and that footpath you recommended we take to? That’s the one my kids walk to school on, Dickhead.

[OMG]

Good read, and put me right off the idea of doing a runner!

[RantyDave]

How important is my license and my money to me? Neither of which will help me out much when I'm dead or sitting in a prison cell.

Yeah, quite. Having (already) developed an appreciation for the folly of placing the otherwise unemployable in a role of, actually, crucial importance to the functioning of society - i.e. the police - I've decided that runners are very definitely not on my agenda.

The risk of getting caught? The presumably deeply fucking agonising pain of falling off at 200k? What it means to my employers if I'm out of action for three months? (no ego, it's a small company, we can't realistically afford to lose anyone). Nah. My daughter. Partner too, but daughter mainly. She'll have to carry the scars from having her dad die ... no, fucking kill himself ... at four years old. Can you imagine that? Poor thing.

Fucking cops can bust me. Couple of hundred bucks and I'll undoubtedly be rude to them. Again. I might not be able to ride for a year. I'll have to get the bus. I've done it before. Better than robbing my family of their dad, innit?

I just wish shitheads driving while on their cellphones would get the message.

Dave

BTW: We could do well to remember that the police merely enforce laws made by parliament. Sure, they could do to apply some common sense from time to time but the problem, I am afraid, is with the laws themselves.

[Coyote]

spotty wankers who think that that the latest sports bikes make up for them being 25 year old virgins...

Gee, that's depressing. It's not like I chose to be this 'spotty'. It's not like I fucking choose to be ugly and unattractive. The bike is all I've got

Yeah, it's off topic but that just shouldn't be said lightly

[Toast]

BTW: We could do well to remember that the police merely enforce laws made by parliament. Sure, they could do to apply some common sense from time to time but the problem, I am afraid, is with the laws themselves.

This is a horse shit excuse that some cops hide behind. The laws will never, ever be able to account for every possible scenario. Any intelligent person in the law making position should realise this.

The cops should also realise this, and administer the laws with the objective of bringing about justice, NOT with the objective of enforcing the laws. i.e. someone's speed is causing them to put others in an unreasonable and unnecessary amount of danger...NOT: someone is going above a certain speed, fine them, period.

Cops need to be able to do more than 1+1. Some can, some can't. That latter group need their eyes to be opened, a bit of an education may help.

[Ixion]

I guess we'd all do a runner rather than stop and be pinged for 160kph+ *IF* we were certain of getting away with it. It's that question of being certain that gives us pause - "thus conscience doth make cowards of us all ".

But, if I were on a big sprotsbike. And I knew the road. And I knew I was up to lose my licence anyway. ----- I'd stop and take my medicine, cos I'm a Nana.

But, if I knew the cop was going the other way - and would have to wait before he could turn round - and there was slow traffic behind me - and lots of traffic the other way to stop him getting past -- and I'd turned just after he passed me, so he couldn't have got my plate - and the road ahead was clear and conditions good - hm, dunno.

What I'm saying is that it's not whether any of us *would* do a runner. We all would, *if* things were exactly right. It's how much the odds need to be eased in our favour before we'd risk it. Some need better odds than others.For some of us (like me) the odds would have to be so good that realistically they'd never occur. Every man must make his own call on those.

Dodgers, now , that's another matter.

[R6_kid:Me]

tis well written, but its something i wouldnt consider doing...

i think you should take WT up on the challenge at a track, that would be interesting - perhaps the same day as mikey vs zed?