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    Lanesplitting Courtesy

    I feel compelled to express my opinion and seek feedback regarding the art of lanesplitting in relation to other bikers around you at the time. I don't care about the moral/legal implications of splitting, nor how to do it without dying. I just want to know whether my thoughts are in the right place for me.

    I travel approx 15k of motorways each way commuting. Since I live south of Auckland, it's not all lanesplitting. But a fair bit of it is. Now I doubt I'm the quickest lane splitter out there, but I sure ain't the slowest. That said I obviously catch up to a fair few bikes as I cruise the ghost lane. And many of these bikes are either splitting, or flowing with the traffic but sitting either hard right or hard left (depending on what lane they're in) effectively blocking the ghost lane. None of this I disagree with.

    Most bikers I come up on will move over as soon as they see me in their mirrors, or as soon as practical anyway, making it both obvious they they've seen me, and leaving me with space to safely pass them. Because their attention may be focused ahead (and quite rightly so if they're splitting or following close), sometimes this can take a minute or so until they notice you there. Of course, sometimes they're really quick and have moved before you've even got there, waving you through. Thanks to those guys/girls.

    But quite a few don't. I don't know whether it's because they aren't checking their mirrors that often, or whether they just don't want to let me through. I would have thought not checking your mirrors at least every 30s or so was bloody dangerous. I would also think that not letting faster moving traffic through put you in the same category as cage drivers - ignorant and discourteous. I believe bikers should be above that.

    Unfortunately with me striking this day in, day out, my patience is not what it used to be. The reason I write today is because I literally cut up a bike that was the 2nd chicane I struck this morning. I sat behind for a minute or so, no sign of this bike moving over despite a clear left lane toward the end. I had the option of undertaking them in the left hand lane (which they were in the RH wheel track of), or through the ghost lane, which would leave about a foot or two of clearance between my bike and theirs, side to side. I don't mind cutting into the space of cages, but not bikes. I thought it would be rude to invade their space. So I invaded their space and took the ghost lane. I have no idea whether they saw me behind them, were expecting it, or not. I didn't really care.

    So can someone enlighten me on whether there is a proper etiquette for passing bikes/lanesplitting bikes? I don't want to get labelled as that mad f***er on the green bike with no plate that just pushes past - he nearly took me out today! I think I have a reasonable expectation that if a faster moving bike appears behind you that you display it the courtesy of allowing it through as soon as practicable. That's what I'd do.
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    I've practiced (and perfected) a "bip" on the horn, just brushing my thumb over it to let them know I'm there.

    If they stay put I hop into another ghost lane till I pass them enough to get safely back into the better one.

    There are not too many that don't pull over, an I make sure I pull over for those that I can too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madboy
    I don't want to get labelled as that mad f***er on the green bike with no plate that just pushes past - he nearly took me out today! I think I have a reasonable expectation that if a faster moving bike appears behind you that you display it the courtesy of allowing it through as soon as practicable. That's what I'd do.
    But you ARE that mad ******.... (no offence meant)

    All I can say is that if a bike wants to get passed me then get passed me, I aint moving why should I? If you want to lane split etc its no one elses responsibility to look out for you, I look out for myself yes I check my mirrors but Im not gonna get stressed cause some mad ****** wants to get passed me.

    I am in no way getting at you madboy, but you asked for feedback so you got mine....
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    I find it silly that people dont see you coming.

    My belief is that if you think you dont have time to look in your mirrors while splitting, you're probably splitting too fast.

    I am a very gentle "safe" splitter, consequently, I have plenty of time to check my mirrors and shift for faster splitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    All I can say is that if a bike wants to get passed me then get passed me, I aint moving why should I?
    No offence taken. But the way I see the "ghost lane" is the same way I see the fast lane on the mway. If a faster moving car comes up behind you, you move over as soon as practicable, let them through, then resume doing whatever you were doing. It's courtesy. Although in NZ it's more like enter the mway, head straight for the fast lane, and park there.
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    See your point.....problem with lane splitting is that even with mirrors others may not see you....mirrors on bikes not being best eh....my view is that when lane splitting you need to be courteous to those in front because you are not flowing with traffic so harder to pick up..........bit like the sking rule.

    Yesterday I was in traffic and this dude appears right next to me, like inches away, I did not see him before but then I was only creeping due to SWAT but given what he did after not surprising.....he had to stop quick too...I pulled over let him by and he accelerates hard in between traffic...in and out etc....anyway, got off the bridge and he was having a chat with a Biker Cop who was doing a ticket......sorry but this guy deserved it the way he was lane splitting......

    That's it folks.

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    Maybe I should have clarified myself more. If im in a postion to move over then I will, same if I filter through traffic at the lights and theres a bike behind me, I will move over and let them in as well. However if Im doing the speed limit or a wee bit over and theres some mad ****** screaming up behind me then all im worried about is filtering safely myself and I see it as the mad ****** problem.
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    well i just laughed and sat behind a business man riding a scooter and i didn't want to go past i just wanted comedy hour that i missed on tv this morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    Maybe I should have clarified myself more. If im in a postion to move over then I will, same if I filter through traffic at the lights and theres a bike behind me, I will move over and let them in as well. However if Im doing the speed limit or a wee bit over and theres some mad ****** screaming up behind me then all im worried about is filtering safely myself and I see it as the mad ****** problem.
    Sounds fair and reasonable to me Str8....

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    I sympathise Mad Boy. If they haven't seen you after a reasonable period, they have observational problems. A little wake up wouldn't go astray.
    I'll sit behind them till I'm sure they've seen my lights searing their retinas, then I'll move. But I usually try to pass when I can use a gap in the next lane.
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    to be honest i lane split a little and i just go into another lane and pick my way round them.

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    Yeah! I see you waiting all the time in traffic, you never lane split.

    I guess the rules would be, don't get infront of someone that can lanesplit fast

    Don't just pull out, look behind first.
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    I know where you're coming from MB.

    Since I started working back in town on Monday, commuting 37kms each way from Upper Hutt, I've noticed this happening a bit. Most are good, but a few are just irritating.

    However, I do believe the onus is on the overtaking vehicle to get past. A friendly blip on the horn is good, and most bikers are apologetic as you go past.

    Now to sort out the SUV drivers that hug the right edge of the left lane....
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    Dont know how many lanes your dealing with, but looking well ahead as well as scanning for lane changing suicide drivers, allows you to just use other lanes such as the bus lane, 1a,2a,3a etc

    One point that may not be relavant to you MB is that sometimes bikers are going slow for a reason. ie a Undercover cop is a few cars infront, or even worse a bike cop that may stand a chance of actually catching a bike (not you though )

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