Water for fuel!!!

[ManDownUnder]

60c/L - yeah right.


add 60 more cents for tax.

Actually no - it'll be $31/1000kms (Road User Charges - I think that's what they are... right?)
MDU

[Pixie]

Just different volatiles and saturated fats.

Me thinks the humorous play on the link between "funnier smell" and nitrous oxide went right over your head.

[Hitcher]

Me thinks the humorous play on the link between "funnier smell" and nitrous oxide went right over your head.

When everybody laughs at all of my "pearls" I may return the favour. Philistines.

[Pixie]

Supposedly there's an obesity epidemic. And I heard the Earthrace guy had a bit of liposuction so he could use some of himself to fuel the boat.

I reckon we just kill two birds with one stone. Get rid of all the fat people who eat too much, requiring extra land for their food, who drive everywhere when they could walk 200m to the shops, who generally put the health system under extra pressure because of fat-related illnesses, and so on.

We don't need to spend any extra rescources growing them, they're already here.

Melt 'em down, and use them for fuel. It would solve a lot of problems.

And call it "Soylent Fuel"

[Hitcher]

And call it "Soylent Fuel"

"Soylent Green is people!"

[Pixie]

When everybody laughs at all of my "pearls" I may return the favour. Philistines.

It may be that too many of them are cultured

[El Dopa]

. fuck you bro, rather put your mind to , oops that's right that's what a mental illness is about,,

Charmed I'm sure. Are you serious? If you can't take a bad taste joke (and this is pretty mild compared to some of the stuff on here), then you'll probably be better off at www.vicarsteaparty.co.nz.

"Soylent Green is people!"

Great. Thanks for spoiling it for me.

[OMG]

Charmed I'm sure. Are you serious? If you can't take a bad taste joke

Slimjim's right, imagine that, melting down fat people, how could you suggest such a thing when there are so many whales just asking to be harpooned and melted down. They virtually jump into the Japanese ships

[slimjim]

Slimjim's right, imagine that, melting down fat people, how could you suggest such a thing when there are so many whales just asking to be harpooned and melted down. They virtually jump into the Japanese ships

too right,, be fucked if i have any japs eat all the fatties,, eat these little fuckies first, enough of them to keep things running for a while:spudflip:

[kickingzebra]

Ah, but lean protien has a lower energy yeild (but higher muscular repair) Fat has a huge enrgy yield, but is hard to burn...
Wonder what will render down to more final product, and how could one test it?
Take one dead person of same height and weight from each ethnic group, render them down until they are done, then make a candle from the waste, and see how long it burns for in a sealed state...

[oldguy]

and whats wrong with steam ? been done before.

[kickingzebra]

180 HP GSXR thou, running steam... Just doesn't have the same ring to it...
I suspect lossy for energy efficiency, pressure etc, is probably worth pursuing, but steam, from water, from open fire.... mebbe no...

Nuclear energy is generally steam though... (shameless right wing plug)

[Pixie]

180 HP GSXR thou, running steam... Just doesn't have the same ring to it...
I suspect lossy for energy efficiency, pressure etc, is probably worth pursuing, but steam, from water, from open fire.... mebbe no...

Nuclear energy is generally steam though... (shameless right wing plug)

The burner in a steam car, when properly designed, can be, and has been, as environmentally clean as the 2001 model gasoline powered cars. This, without any form of special pollution reducing gadgetry, none at all, it is inherent in the modern burner design.

The paramount advantage is that the fuel particle is burned at almost atmospheric pressure, bringing the oxides of nitrogen down to the lowest possible level, if actually present at all. The residence time of that fuel particle in the burner is long, resulting in complete combustion. The unburned hydrocarbons can be non-existant. This has been proven over and over again.

Yes, there is CO2 produced. That occurs when any carbon based fuel is burned and one cannot trick Mother Nature.

If one wanted to concentrate solely on the oxides of nitrogen and CO2 issue, consider the vast number of jet airplanes that burn huge quantities of fuel and happily inject their exhausts high into the atmosphere. Try that one as a pollution problem should you be worried about the so-called global warming issue!

The fuel for a modern steam car can be any light liquid that can be delivered to the burner; petroleum derived fuels, vegetable oils, fuel oil derived from coal, any combustible liquid fuel. No additives are needed nor are they wanted, with the possible exception of fungus inhibitors, the burners work very well on a cheaper straight run fuel. Pure kerosene is an excellent fuel for the steam car.

The statement, by the uninformed, has often been made that the steam car is horribly inefficient and burns vast amounts of fuel. Yes, the old antique steamers were none too efficient, nor in that early era did they have to be; but with a well developed steam powerplant, fuel mileage is now quite good, when compared to an equivalent performance gasoline car, and the steamer will burn a much cheaper fuel than any other mobile powerplant.

There is another nice feature of a steam-powered vehicle, which has not often been mentioned, even by the enthusiasts for the steamer. When puttering along in traffic the burner has little work to do, as no real power is demanded from the engine. The burner is shut off most of the time while in stop and go traffic.

When sitting at a signal light, the burner is off. The residual steam pressure is maintained in the steam generator and starts the car instantly, the burner then coming on when pressure drops below a proscribed limit. The burner cycle then starts all over again, maintaining pressure and temperature. Fuel mileage in town driving is excellent. The steamer does not just sit there idling and wasting fuel and causing pollution.

Some thirty years ago, a team in Texas designed and built a steam powerplant for installation into a Volkswagen Squareback station wagon, and it all fit in the original engine compartment, save for the condenser. This operational steamer delivered over 23 miles per gallon, the same as the original smog equipment strangled VW engine. Enough said on that subject.

Operational Characteristics.

Here is where the steam car really shines.

The steam engine develops maximum torque at minimal revolutions, right from the start, therefore, no clutch or transmission is needed. This torque is not inconsequential either. The simple Stanley 20 HP two cylinder engine develops at maximum, some 640 lbs/ft of torque. The legendary Doble at maximum pressure develops 2200 lbs/ft of torque on the crankshaft. These levels can not be matched by anything in any normal automobile, plus, the engines just loaf along at highway speeds. Their gear ratios between the engine crankshafts and the axle shafts is usually 1-1/2 to one, bringing silent and vibrationless operation, and also delivering extremely long engine life.

This massive torque produces high acceleration rates, not easily equaled by their contemporary gasoline engined cousins. Their performance is exemplary.

[Hitcher]

Great. Thanks for spoiling it for me.

No worries. "The Crying Game"? She's a he...

[Ixion]

wot Mr Pixie said. Steam engines are wonderful things. I just wish they were obtainable. Dunno about in a bike though, even with modern flash boilers 'twould be a bit bulky I think (love to be proved wrong though)