Police muscle in on funeral cortege

[scumdog]

AS FOR HAVING THE GUTS OR BALLS TO HANDLE WHAT YOU GUYS DO , ITS YOUR FUCKEN JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT NOT ME .

That about sums up your whole act WINJA -no guts, no balls - too scared to join Police and make a difference!!

[Hitcher]

Not wearing helmets in funeral processions? It's a bit like putting up white crosses by the side of the road. People don't know any better, or form beliefs based on what they see others around them doing. A bit like sacrificing animals or virgins, or dunking witches. It's OK as long as it does no harm and you don't expect others to take you seriously. In this case the Police didn't. Take your lumps and wear a helmet.

[Drunken Monkey]

The biggest single cause of road deaths in this country is premature death as a result of vehicle pollution. ...

You know those are only correlative statistics - those numbers are not based on direct cause findings from coroner or medical report from the actual death of the victim. Whilst there is possibly some merit to relationship of a build up of harmful substances from vehicle emissions contributing to a person's death, it's not as real or clear cut as say, someone running their car in a garage as suicide attempt.

[denill]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamytus50
Were you still in school at 20?

NAH , I WAS BANGING YOUR MUM IN THE ARSE

Hey Winja, don't ever leave us will you - cos you really have a way with words................

[Hitcher]

NAH , I WAS BANGING YOUR MUM IN THE ARSE

The BDOTGNZA are conflicted by this statement.

[Jantar]

The biggest single cause of road deaths in this country is premature death as a result of vehicle pollution. In one year there were 253 in Auckland alone (source: ARC website: http://www.arc.govt.nz/arc/environme...le-effects.cfm).............

Believing [this] would suggest brainwashing.

I would challenge you to name a single person in New Zealand who has died because of vehicle pollution, or to give a reference to a verifiable single case of death due to vehicle pollution.

What has happened in studies such as the one that the ARC have based their claim on is that a measure has been made in the increase of air polution due to vehicle emmissions, and a measure is made on the number of people dying due to respitory illnesses, then a correllation is drawn between the two.

However any scientist or even statistician will tell you that correlation does not automatically mean causation. Using their logic I would claim that 100% of drug addicts in New Zealand were fed on milk during the first six months of their lives. Therefore feeding infants on milk causes drug addiction.

[Squeak the Rat]

Believing [this] would suggest brainwashing.

I would challenge you to name a single person in New Zealand who has died because of vehicle pollution, or to give a reference to a verifiable single case of death due to vehicle pollution.

What has happened in studies such as the one that the ARC have based their claim on is that a measure has been made in the increase of air polution due to vehicle emmissions, and a measure is made on the number of people dying due to respitory illnesses, then a correllation is drawn between the two.

However any scientist or even statistician will tell you that correlation does not automatically mean causation. Using their logic I would claim that 100% of drug addicts in New Zealand were fed on milk during the first six months of their lives. Therefore feeding infants on milk causes drug addiction.

Haha yes, good points and I do realise the issues with the stat I quoted. I just hoped no one else would

But I have the similar issues applying speeding as the cause of road fatalities. It seems that if some one dies on the road and they were travelling over the speed limit then speed is automatically either the cause or a factor.

But that's a discussion for another day.....

[Pixie]

There are many ways of showing respect. - not wearing a hat is one of them.
Whats with the safety nazi kick again. its not as though he was hairing off through the countryside or riding around town as a normal matter of course - he was in a funeral cortege for gods sake!
Once again its a lack of common sense or discretion on the part of a public official, who lets zealotry for the letter of the law or regulation take precedence over a real life situation where a little common sense would have avoided the whole shemozzle. - and it doesnt just apply just to the police - every public regulatory body has people in them who are guilty of the same lack of judgement.
Another case of zealous attempted application of the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law!

This is a safety issue.
What if,while riding without a helmet,his head exploded as the cortege was passing a primary school,killing thousands of kids.
Won't someone think of the children?

[Pixie]

Why were charges not pressed?
Probably because some reasonable boss cop with common sense (there are a few) told the piglets to stop being cunts and pull their heads in.

[Pixie]

By the way
I assume everybody in the cortege four wheeled vehicles were wearing their seatbelts,since there is no report of the cops stopping the cars.
Huh, huh?

[Hitcher]

By the way
I assume everybody in the cortege four wheeled vehicles were wearing their seatbelts,since there is no report of the cops stopping the cars.
Huh, huh?

Presumably people don't choose to not wear their seatbelts as a mark of "respect" for the dead. For heaven's sake.

[Paul in NZ]

I read this stuff and I go 'yeah rigggghhhttt'

People mourn in different ways. If the dead guys dad and his mates wanna turn up at the funeral on bikes? Sure, no worries, who knows, the son may have liked riding on the back some times (he was blind I think)! But it's not really a biker funeral is it? The whole helmet off thing is a bit off a 'Easyriders wanna be thing isn't it?

Anyway!

Looking at the original post.. Someone in a car was listening to the Police channel on their radio? Um! Gee, I've been to a few funerals and I can't say anyone has been listening to a scanner... That sounds a bit - um - unusual?

I'd say there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye and it's not worth getting your knickers in a twist over!

[froggyfrenchman]

The whole helmet off thing is a bit off a 'Easyriders wanna be thing isn't it?

I hope you never have to loose someone close enough to you that you understand my point of view.

Admitadbly, it the case in question.. the kid was not a biker, and so im gonna have to sit on the fence on that particular case.

In the case of any biker funeral, however. I have always and will always take my hat off.

[brianemone]

Seems a strange way to mourn. i can totally understand the riding the bike part, but the whole helmet fiasco seems a little bizzare.

[ManDownUnder]

Anyway!

Looking at the original post.. Someone in a car was listening to the Police channel on their radio? Um! Gee, I've been to a few funerals and I can't say anyone has been listening to a scanner... That sounds a bit - um - unusual?

I'd say there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye and it's not worth getting your knickers in a twist over!

Agreed - and my 5c (without being arsed reading 100's of posts) - if the cops did what the press reported them doing - wouldn't it have been more appropriate to tackle the no helmet issue after tha fact> Get a photo of the guy, get his rego - do whatever it took evidentially... then sit back and have a word to him AFTERWARDS.

Go knock on his door the following day or something...? Or is that too simple?