Police muscle in on funeral cortege

**Highlander** · 22nd April 2006, 09:27

What about all the push bikes being ridden without helmets? Does the law not require a halmet to be worn when riding on a Bicycle? Where is the enforcement for that?

The law is the law. Yes discretion could have been used by the Policeman (policeperson?) involved, but equally the guy knew the law when he chose not to follow it, exactly the same as if he had decided to ride at 60 in a 50 zone or 150 in a 100 zone.

**crashe** · 22nd April 2006, 09:33

Originally Posted by Indoo

Funny that cos i distinctly remember not too long ago the Police being criticised for allowing the funeral procession of that head hunters idiot to ride down the motorway without helmets.

Yep that was the gang member who was the head honcho of that gang that was murdered. They all rode up the southern motorway from south Auckland down the nor-western motorway over to Waikamete cementary where he is buried. There was tv coverage of that procession.
Most of them did NOT wear helmets to that funeral.

Whether they wore them on the way home I don't know as there was no mention of that.

So if they do it for one, then they do it for all.
This was one man, not wearing a helmet riding at slow speed behind a hearse... compared to fast speed on the motorway.

Sorry but the Henderson cops should have let him go or at least spoke to him afterwards.

Oh and 15 - 20 bikes that constitutes a GANG.
Shite then the Ronnie House fundraiser run tomorrow and all other fundraiser runs ....we are all in a GANG.... wow..

**denill** · 22nd April 2006, 09:36

Originally Posted by scumdog

Hmm, they don't get pulled over for that down here...

Just another thing to add to the list of "Why I don't Live in Auckland or any other Large Metropolitan Area"

Yeah, cops fall into the same category as lawyers. 99% give the rest a bad name............

**Scouse** · 22nd April 2006, 09:38

Originally Posted by Indoo

"But another mourner, who was listening to the police radio in his car, said he heard a an officer describe the procession as "a gang funeral"."

I think its just another case of Herald journalism, the Police are the target atm so what story they can twist around, they will take.

Same way the police twist things you say when they use it as evidence Indoo or do you think that its ok for the Police to twist things to suit their ends but its only wrong when Journalist do it

**Bonez** · 22nd April 2006, 09:41

Originally Posted by scumdog

Hmm, they don't get pulled over for that down here...

Just another thing to add to the list of "Why I don't Live in Auckland or any other Large Metropolitan Area"

They seem cool with it up our way too SD. I'm guessing the coppers further up north where just having a bad hair day. I'm sure if they where informed it was going to happen, generally the norm here in Palmy anyway, things would be different.

**denill** · 22nd April 2006, 09:42

Originally Posted by crashe

Yep that was the gang member who was the head honcho of that gang that was murdered. They all rode up the southern motorway from south Auckland down the nor-western motorway over to Waikamete cementary where he is buried. There was tv coverage of that procession.
Most of them did NOT wear helmets to that funeral.
Whether they wore them on the way home I don't know as there was no mention of that.

Don't understand cop logic. It would be a service to society if they allowed them to ride helmetless ALL the time.
Same as how they rush to defuse gang warfare. Why don't they leave it for a week or two?? Pretend it is a burglary.

**Indoo** · 22nd April 2006, 09:45

Originally Posted by zrxer

Same way the police twist thing you say when they use it as evidence Indoo or do you think that its ok for the Police to twist things to suit their ends but its only wrong when Journalist do it

Hardly,but even then the defence twists things in the opposite direction. So you do actually have a relatively balanced medium.

The Herald isn't even remotely balanced anymore, but people believe what they read in it to be the truth and form opinions on things based around that.
Thats pretty much evidenced just in this thread.

The Herald's current beat up is the cops, hell they are even appealing for people to send in bad stories about the Police. Take it with a grain of salt, a big one.

**WINJA** · 22nd April 2006, 09:57

Originally Posted by scumdog

Hmm, they don't get pulled over for that down here...

Just another thing to add to the list of "Why I don't Live in Auckland or any other Large Metropolitan Area"

YOU GUYS DONT HAVE NOD MAN

**krash69** · 22nd April 2006, 10:06

wear no helemt too if it was one of my kids or a fallen mate.....

now this thing of a group of bikes wil all ways have the stigma of bean bikies or a gang.....surely the cops must be able to tell he difference by now....

**inlinefour** · 22nd April 2006, 10:48

How can that respect someone? Actually being there is the respect thing...

Yea the Police handled the whole thing badly, especially if they have let gangs do it in the past. One rule for some and another rule for the rest. Thats what makes the Police arses in this instance.

As for riding without safety gear, IMO thats just stoopid...

**WINJA** · 22nd April 2006, 10:58

Originally Posted by inlinefour

How can that respect someone? Actually being there is the respect thing...

Yea the Police handled the whole thing badly, especially if they have let gangs do it in the past. One rule for some and another rule for the rest. Thats what makes the Police arses in this instance.

As for riding without safety gear, IMO thats just stoopid...

THE PIGS HAVE ALWAYS HAD A DOUBLE STANDARD ,THE FARMERS RIDE AROUND HERE AT SPEED ON UNREGISTERED BIKES WEARING NO HELMET AND THE COPS JUST DRIVE ON BY , A FUNERAL IS ONE THING BUT A COCKY DOING IT 300 DAYS OF A YEAR IS FUCKEN 300 TIMES MORE DANGEROUS YET THE PIGS DO NOTHING ,SAME WITH ALL THE COCKYS WITH THEIR EXTRA WHEELS ON THE TRACTORS AT THE MOMENT THE TRACTORS ARE FAR TO WIDE TO LEGALLY BE ON THE ROAD THE PIGS DO NOTHING , I SEE SOME CRAZY SHIT ON MY TRAVELS AND THE PIGS LOOK THE OTHER WAY , IF A PIG DONT HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AT A FUNERAL HES GOT PISS POOR JUDGEMENT AND SHOULD BE FIRED

**SwanTiger** · 22nd April 2006, 11:19

As previously mentioned, anything written in the NZ Herald is not worth taking as factual representation of the event.

The conensus on this thread is that the Police made a failure in judgement and I agree with that.

I can highlight that by an incident I witnessed while in the Car. I was heading north along State Highway in the car and there was a large build up of traffic. A Police Highway Patrol was parked with his warning board up reading that a Hazard was ahead.

After waiting in Traffic from Hatfields Beach until the bottom of the Waiwera Hills as you come over the small bridge I finally got to see what the hazard was. A broken down campervan on the bridge with a Police officer at its Window writing out a ticket for the driver.

Instead of rolling the camper back down to the edge of the road, which was easily possible, the cop obviously decided writing a ticket was more important than the flow of traffic.

Goes to show, lack of brains.

**kro** · 22nd April 2006, 11:31

He road without a helmet as a mark of respect?, How on God's green earth does that show a mark of respect?. It shows a marked decrease in common sense, and points towards a good escuse to go for a ride with no lid. Maybe he should have got whacked out on P, got drunk, and dragged a live dog behind the bike as a mark of respect too. Idiotic.

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2006, 11:55

This brings to mind a comment to Holmes by Gareth Morgan on the Silk Riders trip:
"the people in all the countries we passed through were great,interested in what we were doing,where we were from.The only ones that gave us trouble were the goons.The ones in uniform"