nsr, fzr, tzr, gsxr, cbr, rgv, zxr

**sefer** · 28th April 2006, 13:49

Originally Posted by Rosie

It has fairings just like a real sports bike.

And it even says so on the sticker

**Rosie** · 28th April 2006, 16:03

Originally Posted by sefer

And it even says so on the sticker

Not just any sportsbike, it's a Super Real Sportsbike!
And the 'RR' stands for 'Race Replica' right?

**Kwaka-Kid** · 28th April 2006, 19:17

interesting, i still have serious trouble coming to terms with it being 25% less then the ZXR's. I have only ridden 1xZXR A, 4x C's, and 2 odd MC22s and an MC19... and cant feel it at all, yet it should be really noticable.

meh! anyways.. i still wouldnt beleive it on paper... heres an example.
http://www.v-four.freeserve.co.uk/vfr400.htm
http://bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=8300
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr/specs/94-vfr400r.html

Look at that, they all clam way different power/torque for essentially the same VFR400... And no nothing changed over those years... one of them even says it has a top speed of 205kmph? haha.. and if they were talkin about the limiter it would be 180. Strange... all so official looking too.

**kiwifruit** · 28th April 2006, 19:23

a few years back i owned a 1990 gsxr250, so thats all i can really comment on;
it was very easy to ride, was reliable (in that it was still running) for 2 years of thrashing
the motor lost compression after i had it, but only because it got cained....
but you kinda need to give it heaps to get anywhere
was horrible under 12rpm, after that it got up to steam
after a few months it was horrible under 13rpm
few months later it was horrible under 14, and so on
until it was on deaths doorstep and nothing happened until 16,000rpm!

It was easy to foul up, esp toward the end
any low rev riding would see it spluttering and even stalling
turning the starter with no thottle for about 15 sec would get it going again.

BUT, it was still running, its not like it just lay down and died.....
had alot of fun on it
rode around the country side 2 up (really haf to ring its poor little neck!)
covered about 30,000 km on it

If i could turn back time i would have listened to my old man and just got something cheap and waited it out til i could ride a bigger bike, legally.
But thats not what happened.

These days the 1990ish 4 cylinder 4 stroke bikes are around the price they were 10 years ago, which sucks!

My advise: get a sub $1500 "shitter", thrash it, kill it, move on.
Geeez, i sound like my old man

**vtec** · 28th April 2006, 23:20

Sounds like you never did the carbs or valves or anything kiwifruit? I think its quite important to do most of the normal four stroke tune up stuff to keep these bikes going.

**N4CR** · 28th April 2006, 23:29

Originally Posted by vtec

Sounds like you never did the carbs or valves or anything kiwifruit? I think its quite important to do most of the normal four stroke tune up stuff to keep these bikes going.

Yeah, I had the pleasure of riding a 91 RR today with fhaaarked carbs, they had just been tuned and new plugs etc a few days before, amazing power 8-12k then it just peetered out lmao, I was like 'SHIT if midrange is like this then top end will be like riding a 400 or something'. Or not.

Tehehe, somehow the carbs went from great for 2 days to having all the availiable power in midrange after that time, I think something is majorly wrong. Seems like it' rich down low then lean up top, but engine temps are not high... weird.

**kiwifruit** · 29th April 2006, 00:17

carbs etc used to get attention as required,
never had the engine apart to do anything serious.
The thing just got tired of the constant redline recieved thru the gears, day after day

Had a 92 cbr400rr a few bikes after and it was a totally different story,
alot harder to kill.

**vtec** · 29th April 2006, 09:37

Originally Posted by N4CR

Yeah, I had the pleasure of riding a 91 RR today with fhaaarked carbs, they had just been tuned and new plugs etc a few days before, amazing power 8-12k then it just peetered out lmao, I was like 'SHIT if midrange is like this then top end will be like riding a 400 or something'. Or not.

Tehehe, somehow the carbs went from great for 2 days to having all the availiable power in midrange after that time, I think something is majorly wrong. Seems like it' rich down low then lean up top, but engine temps are not high... weird.

These bikes don't get that hot when running lean, there is plenty of cooling for such a small engine, I would think that it's not flowing enough petrol to or through the carbs. That would be the only reason for a good midrange and a crap top end that I could think of. Check for a kink in the fuel line, make sure the vacuum hose is attached, and lastly check that the fuel filter and tap is letting enough gas through.

This is my mildly educated guess of the situation, so don't take it as definitely the truth.

**juzzer** · 29th April 2006, 09:54

Having owned, used and abused most of the above (GSXR, RGV, ZXR, NSR) and ridden all of the others you mentioned to sum it all up:

Four strokes for sensibility & two strokes for fun. So it depends on if you want to be a nana rider or not

If you maintain a 2-stroke they go for ages.

BTW did I mention I have a NSR that needs a new home.

**Danboy** · 29th April 2006, 11:19

Originally Posted by juzzer

BTW did I mention I have a NSR that needs a new home.

lol...cheers, but unless you wanna swap your bike and gear for my car...I'm a little stuck for cash to buy.

Besides, from all the info I've been readin so far...I reckon I might be heading in the direction of a CBR or ZXR.

D.

**Jamezo** · 29th April 2006, 16:28

Originally Posted by Danboy

lol...cheers, but unless you wanna swap your bike and gear for my car...I'm a little stuck for cash to buy.

Besides, from all the info I've been readin so far...I reckon I might be heading in the direction of a CBR or ZXR.

D.

If you can't afford an NSR, you *definitely* will not be able to afford a CBR or ZXR.

The 2/ 250s go for considerably less than the 4/ ones. With the exception of super tricked out race-rep NSRs, which go for as much as or more than the 4 strokes.

Expect to pay ~$3K for a good NSR or RGV. ~$5K for a CBR RR or ZXR.

**Ixion** · 29th April 2006, 16:30

Originally Posted by Jamezo

If you can't afford an NSR, you *definitely* will not be able to afford a CBR or ZXR.

The 2/ 250s go for considerably less than the 4/ ones. With the exception of super tricked out race-rep NSRs, which go for as much as or more than the 4 strokes.

Expect to pay ~$3K for a good NSR or RGV. ~$5K for a CBR RR or ZXR.

There is a reason for that.

**Jamezo** · 29th April 2006, 17:23

Originally Posted by Ixion

There is a reason for that.

Cause the owners get all scared-like of their awesome power, and have to flick 'em off to the next unsuspecting soul for whatever they can grab?

Cause of the huge demand for 'safe' four strokes?

Global warming?

**Ixion** · 29th April 2006, 17:30

Mainly cos

Most have been crashed multiple times
They are much harder to ride than 4 strokes (meaning you have to work at the riding)
They require more maintainance
Most have been well butched by amatuer mechanics
Stupid powervalves'
Global warming