1100 or Thou?

[sugilite:Me]

100 CC in racing terms means plenty! I recently went to a big bore kit on my ZX9R (now a ZX998R!) and what a difference!
In the old production racing days, the top teams used to go to the last oversize, which would gain a few extra valuable cc's. So yeah, it definitly makes a difference.

For road purposes, for bikes of that capacity, 100cc's means dick really.

Personally, I view the old GSXR1100's as very fast lazy boys with a wheel at each end, esp the early 18 inch wheel models! You could sledge the front end all day long and stay shiny side up on those babes!

[Colapop]

1000's 1100's, man, you must have a lot to carry around...

Yeah a little bit - I'm 6'4" and 115kgs.
So far, as I understand it, it's really only technology that is the difference between them. In broader terms, different manufacturers call their various stedds 1000's, 1100's or whatever by virtue of being within 50cc of the 'desired' target? I've been told that I should be getting a thou over a 750. How is a thou or 1100 going to be different for me?

[James Deuce]

Buy what you want, not what someone else says you "should" buy. Try stuff, don't buy based on opinions in an Internet forum.

Every bike is fun, but you need to buy something that fits you. After the 650 single you had, any modern IL4 600c and up is going to feel like a rocketship.

[Fatjim]

don't poo your pants.
I will do that for you
rainbows and lollypops. xooxoxo

What the fuck?

[vifferman]

No. The gear driven cam 800s were a development of the previous 750. The later cam-chain and VTEC 800s are essentially an iteration of the same design philosophy.

What he said.
The 800's motor (781cc compared to 748 for the 750s) looks the same at first glance, but is completely new: EFI vs. carbs, cast-in cylinder liners vs. pressed-in ones, engine as a stressed member (and swingarm pivoting off it)vs. full frame, etc.
The first 800s (1998-2001) were supposedly based on the RC45 (Yeah, right!), hence the RC46 designation, and have a shorter stroke (a whole 0.6mm!!) and 2mm bigger bore. Why they didn't go to 900cc or even 1000 is a mystery, and lost Honda a few sales to other marques.

[Colapop]

About the only problem I've heard about with the VFR's is the cam chain tensioner breaking? I reckon a VFR1000 would be magic!

[MSTRS:Me]

Yeah a little bit - I'm 6'4" and 115kgs.
So far, as I understand it, it's really only technology that is the difference between them. In broader terms, different manufacturers call their various stedds 1000's, 1100's or whatever by virtue of being within 50cc of the 'desired' target? I've been told that I should be getting a thou over a 750. How is a thou or 1100 going to be different for me?

750/1000/1100.....little to no difference on the road*. If you are talking about GSXRs, they are all sprotbikes with the usual 'cramped' rider position.
* the 1100s are much heavier tho, a little harder to throw around, but have huge torque compared to their smaller brothers (sisters?) so are perhaps better suited to touring

[Lou Girardin]

100 cc's is 10% bigger than a thou = 10% more torque = nearly 10% more power. Check out the cost of getting that with aftermarket bolt on goodies.

[Colapop]

That's kinda what it gets back to I suppose - bang for buck. I'm gonna (fniggers crossed) have about $5k to spend.

[Str8 Jacket]

(fniggers crossed)

Are you being racist?

This "word" has popped up in almost every reply...

[James Deuce]

Why do they call them "fingers"?

I've never seen them fing. Ever.

[Str8 Jacket]

Why do they call them "fingers"?

I've never seen them fing. Ever.

Bit like noses smell, but they dont call them smellers either... Strange language this english...

[snuffles]

Why do they call them "fingers"?

I've never seen them fing. Ever.

what are you doing commenting in this post, you own a girls bike.......anything under a thou

[WRT]

Yeah a little bit - I'm 6'4" and 115kgs.

Mwhahahaha, just picturing in my head what you woulda looked like in that little Diahatsu. Come to think of it, you shouldnt have sold it, you shoulda just mounted some handle bars on the roof, taken the wheels off one side and then straddled the damn thing - there's ya bike!

[vifferman]

About the only problem I've heard about with the VFR's is the cam chain tensioner breaking? I reckon a VFR1000 would be magic!

The VTec ones had a few recalls, for alternator upgrades (x2), subframes (though no-one seems to have had one break), brake seals. But this is Murka, where they're mighty afeerd of lawyers suing 'em. So you're quite right - the camchain tensioner (what a surprise !) is the only real weakness, apart from a dodgy wiring loom with a tendency to stop things working or catch on fire.