Well, until he publicly states the policy is wrong, he's as bad as the rest.Originally Posted by SPman
Hypocrisy may be a job requirement, but it's not an excuse.
Lou
Immature and proud of it.
Well, until he publicly states the policy is wrong, he's as bad as the rest.
Hypocrisy may be a job requirement, but it's not an excuse.
Lou
Rest In Peace
The problem with this speeding is dangerous crap is that sends out a message that if you are driving within the speed limit you will be safe.Which is of course rubbish.
Crash at 99kmh and it wont look much different to 109kmh .
The advertising money needs to be spent on teaching that driving a vehicle of any type is potentialy dangerous no matter what the speed.
I would rather travel with an alert driver at 120kmh than with some people who are dangerous at 70kmh because they are doing just about everything but driving.
I think bike riders are (in the most part) safer road users because we only have one thing we can do and that is ride the bike. We cant change CD's (exceptions being Gold Wings and other super tourers ), fiddle with the radio, Text , apply makeup , eat , have kids screaming in the back seat etc etc...
Dave
Forum whore
And it is in our interests to be aware and alert, cos we suffer the most, regardless of who is at fault
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
Slower than Ixion
What I'd like to know is the true statistics of Motorcyclists requiring acc. Also a breakdown of those accidents by solo bin, involving car and car at fault. I have a feeling that most accidencts requiring acc involve cars at fault (sorry I didn't see you).
If that's the case I would like to know why it isn't car registrations that are more expensive. As by rights they are therefore causing a larger drain on the system than bikers themselves are. Yet because the biker ends up worse off in the accident we're penalized twice (once by getting hurt and two, by having to pay more for the privilege).
Deus ex ukulele
Welcome to the world of NEWSPEAK!
Wellington is staffed by a bunch of bureaucrats hell bent on furthering their own careers as "social marketers". It started with "slip slop slap" but has since moved on to more sinister messages where the Government tells people what to do and, more worryingly, what to think.
--Don't smoke
--Don't drink and drive
--Be nice to people with mental disease
--Use a bath mat
--Don't litter
--Eat fruit
--Wear a pushbike helmet
Worryingly, there are few checks and balances on this process. The LTSA, for example, has a Communications Director who works with their advertising agency on road safety messages. The Broadcasting Standards Authority appears to be the only basis of critique for this process. If the public criticises, that is seen as a positive endorsement that the message must be getting through.
BE WARNED: These are the same bureaucrats who will draft the replies to the letters or emails you send to Ministers.
Combined with other State-funded safety nets, we now have a society where people refuse to take responsibility for or accept the consequences of their own actions.
*Dismounts hobby horse. Returns it, still steaming, to stable.*
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Forum whore
Reply:-
On behalf of the Hon Harry Duynhoven, Associate Minister of Transport, I
acknowledge your email of 4 May 2004 to Hon Pete Hodgson concerning the
LTSA's current newspaper road safety advertisements.
Your email has been referred to Hon Duynhoven as the issue you raise falls
within his portfolio responsibilities. I will ensure your email is brought
to the Ministers attention.
Thank you.
Tania Ditchburn
Private Secretary (Transport)
Office of Hon Harry Duynhoven
Associate Minister of Transport
Ph: (04) 471 9856
Fax: (04) 472 8052
Hah!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Forum whore
This could be why we are seeing less and less young people getting into bikes - the inability to text on the move must be a big drawback,to get more people on bikes the phone companies had better develope something better.
In and out of jobs, running free
Waging war with society
Hardcore Biker
I dislike these ads as much as all of you.They enrage me out of sheer principle.
I, however, do not credit many cagers with the Auto-intelligence or skill behind the wheel to be offended, though.I don't know[well] any one besides my Father and one uncle and three cousins(all bikers or former bikers and all proffessional drivers at one time.) who posses half the skills required to recover control of a car in the event of a slide, brake lock-up or whatever emergency.Yes I'm sure some of you and many others do posses some or all of the skills I've alluded to...but you're still in a huge minority.
Any person who speeds, relative to conditions, beyond thier personal ability to maintain control of their car in all foreseeable emergancy situations that may occur IS knowingly endangering other road users.
I am guilty of exploring my limits at times and I chose to do so on public roads both on my bike and in my car as well as at private meets on racetracks.But always either under supervision(track) or on deserted roads where I pose risk to no-one bar myself.
The ads are aimed at the dickheads out there who think they are Schumacher, the twits who are always in a fucking hurry and the clowns who fail to concentrate on driving and all the experts who reckon they know how to 'handle' their car in traffic.
Only problem is that they will ignore these ads because they are so fuckin good behind the wheel they think the message is directed at some-one else.
Forum whore
What this county needs is a Hikoi Ride to Parliment. Maori know how to put one together. They have one single item. We need something that will unite 'all' of us. If a MP can drive his tractor up the steps of Parliment just think what the moto x boys could do for entertainment. Will need a better cause than some crappy add campagn. Now there's an idea. We have the Police Traffic Unit, what do we need the LTSA FOR?
Skyryder
It's not how you put it together, its why it was undone in the first place
L-Plate Rider
"The ads are aimed at the dickheads out there who think they are Schumacher, the twits who are always in a fucking hurry and the clowns who fail to concentrate on driving and all the experts who reckon they know how to 'handle' their car in traffic". (extract from a psoting)
If only it were true. But it is crap. It is aimed at everyone anywhere and at anytime, there is no subjective application of the accusation. There are three speed cameras on the 10k stretch of the Gt.North Road into Auckland. Hundreds must have been killed there before to warrant such an application, Should the speed limit on this wide, clear, main h'way be 50? The same as a narrow bendy road in a housing area.Last year I was tagged on an absolutely deserted back road in S.I. at 120k. Not even any stock in the paddocks. I explained this to the officer including my estimation that I had more chance of being abducted by aliens than having an accident. To no avail of course, why was he out there in nomans land with his little laser? Because he is brainwashed into really believing we are potential killers everywhere. I go to Oz last week, out of Sydney. On average everyone drives faster, speed limits generally 10 to 15k higher than ours.(Lots of different limits everywhere). I would like to see the statistics there compared to us, it must be mayhem with the dead and dying littering the road, not that I noticed any. Good news in UK, they are removing heaps and heaps of cameras, now changing to speed detectors flashing you a warning of your exceeding the limit. Saw quite a few of these on the way to Wollongong as well.
Immature and proud of it.
That's exactly the problem,madandy. We're producing a generation of drivers that think keeping below the speed limit and wearing your seatbelt is all it takes to be a good driver. They exercise more skill operating a vacuum cleaner than driving a car.
Thank you LTSA.
BTW who's emailed the Ministers? It only takes a couple of minutes to flood these idiots inboxes. Limit the abuse though.
Lou
I'd rather be thinking
Here's my email. Quite restrained when I think what I could have written:
I am dumbfounded. To compare motorists exceeding the speed limit with rabid dogs, murderers and drug addicts goes way beyond the boundaries of what is acceptable and reasonable. Even allowing for the hyperbole of advertising, this is just outrageous. The LTSA has gratuitously insulted me and hundreds of thousands of decent, rational New Zealanders. Stop this campaign before it does any more damage. We are voters as well as motorists, and we won't forget.
Age is too high a price to pay for maturity
Forum whore
I sent an e-mail to Hodgson, got the same reply as SPman (word for word)
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
on the up
Thank you for your email to Hon Pete Hodgson. You will, I am sure, appreciate that the Minister receives a vast amount of mail and he cannot always personally respond. Please be assured that your comments have been noted and you may receive a further response in due course.
Hmmm. Do you think we might be getting fobbed off here?
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
Deus ex ukulele
"Fobbed" may not be the right expression. Ministers do get shitloads of mail and generally only respond if you ask them a question. "Rant" material will get sent to a policy analyst somewhere to consider.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
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