Unbundling of the local loop

[diggydog]

they tell u they speed the net it up & make it cheaper, but telecom bloody ripen us off.
we need competition to bring prices down, so bring it on

[TwoSeven]

Now all we have to do is talk the local councels into putting up a free WiMax mesh networks across each city like they are starting to do overseas.

Free broadband would be even better.

[cowpoos]

cow poos prob wont understand this title so hopefully the thread will stay on track for a bit.

Very interesting how Telescum found out the info so fast.

you thought wrong laddie.....and anyway.....this basically means I will never beable to get broadband as its not economical for any company to do so...which is a fuckin cunt....unless wholesale data becomes cheaper and then i will get satilite or whoosh wireless becomes avalible in southern wairarapa.....

[Paul in NZ]

I have a funny feeling this is going to work the opposite way than most people think.

It costs a shite load of money to introduce new services and since at one time or another I have held the life blood of every exchange telecom own in my hands, I'd say be very careful... I have no great feelings either way towards em but I have seen the competition and i tell you what, Telecom don't look too bad in comparison!

Cheaper faster broadband? Stuffed if I'd put my money in it. ...

[boomer]

heres another player.. mobile broadband...here

big fat finger to teleskum

[Jantar]

you thought wrong laddie.....and anyway.....this basically means I will never beable to get broadband as its not economical for any company to do so...which is a fuckin cunt....unless wholesale data becomes cheaper and then i will get satilite or whoosh wireless becomes avalible in southern wairarapa.....

Same here, Hell I'd like any broadband, but now it looks like wireless will be the only way us rural users will ever see it. Unfortunately the price of wireless broadband is too prohibitive.

[Mental Trousers]

I like the way the govt decided in the morning and telescum knew by mid afternoon.

As the legislation directly affects Telecom the government would've notified them before making it public.

[bugjuice]

Best idea is for wireless technologies to be developed further. If we had a 3rd player in the wireless market (Telstra build something!), then mobiles should cost less and you wouldn't have to worry about local loops.

TCL has a wireless local loop already, and is being used by quite a few big companies. We've got a fuck-off big transmitter on the ASB tower in the city.. But its cost of all the equipment, plus the wires running to it mean that at the moment, residential access isn't financially viable at the moment.

First I heard of it was the news at 6, so I'm betting a few of my colleagues are still at work now.. I guess I'll see the true ramifications of all this tomorrow

but at long last, the empire will crumble in little bits.

I'm just a bit annoyed at how hung up everyone is about broadband uptake etc.. LLU is more than just broadband, it's tolls, services (voice mail, call waiting, etc), cell phone calls, price overall etc etc.. more than just bloody internet..

[sAsLEX]

heres another player.. mobile broadband...here

big fat finger to teleskum

3G is poos, and aint being introduced as much as WiMAX and ETSI HiperMAN (European) and WiBro (Korean).

Same here, Hell I'd like any broadband, but now it looks like wireless will be the only way us rural users will ever see it. Unfortunately the price of wireless broadband is too prohibitive.

Uncapped at 55 a month here on wireless sonny.

[bugjuice]

Telecom 3G is bollocks. Big hairy smoke n mirrors bollocks.
When they first launched it, it wasn't even on the 3G network! And half the things they boast like video messaging (not live talking, but sending a message), 2.5G has been able to do that for yonks.. nothing new there..
Just smoke n mirrors and big bollocks, cos they wanted to be the first on the market with it..

So far, TCL won't launch a cell phone network, cos it costs millions to build something decent. Voda and TC wanted so much money for use of theirs (at a limited choice too), that it wasn't worth it. This LLU decision might have more cookies to it like opening up the cell phone market too..

[Brian d marge]

does that mean I can watch me internet telly when I go on hols Yippeee

Bye telescum

Have a nicedayt , thanks for comming saionara .....TTFN

Stephen

[Blackbird]

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So, if you're one of the smug cnuts with Telecom shares I'd like to say "haa haa" and suggest that you might be wanting to sell that beemer about now.

Dave

I know Telecom are crap, but they are still a good investment and will bounce back. Crikey, if we were worried about getting shares in ethical companies, the share market would be miniscule.

[Milky]

haha... That is too true buggy, I know a guy working at vodafone who was pissed off at them touting it as the latest 3g tech when most of it is still on the old networks.

Be very interesting to see what happens to the local sharemarket tomorrow - telecom is something like 45% by value traded each day, not sure on the market capitalisation thing, but the impact is likely to be real big.

[Jantar]

Uncapped at 55 a month here on wireless sonny.

Maybe in Albany, but try rural Central Otago.

[Hitcher]

"Unbundling" an obsolete, clapped-out copper-wire network? Woo Hoo!

From a climate where a monopoly grudgingly invested in it to a Brave New World where there is no incentive for anybody to invest in and upgrade it. Welcome to the People's Republic of Aotearoa. Has anybody got a Morse key or a Telex?