Petition time...

[SARGE]

And while we're at it, we should lobby for full approved safety gear to be a mandatory requirement. Including flouro vests.
And gaitors.

what about Crocks?.. dont see many gaiters down in these parts..maybe a shitload of salamanders?

[Skyryder]

[QUOTE=Big Dave]

My cunning plan is to build it a better web site that can identify some processes for us to establish a political voice, promote the organisation with some column centimeters that have fallen my way, and then step back into the rank and file.

Concentric circles, eliptical circle, or as I mentioned political circles it’s all a bit of a ‘roundabout,’ if there is no forward direction.

What your’re trying to do is to influence politicians to act in a reasonable manner. We are both in agreementthat the ACC levies are disproprtianal to our overall accident rate. That’s a simple way of saying that we pay to much. The question is how to change that in our favour.

All politicla parties develop policy so as to gain enough votes so as to get as many of their members elected to Parliament as posssible.

Policy is formuled by one of three way, and in some cases all three.

1 Remits voted on by members at annual conferences.
2 Lobby groups.
3 Public opinion. (this usually will only happen when the groundswell is big enough and a party picks it up in order for support.

One is unlikely to occurr unless BRONZ becomes a political party and there is no reason why that could not be done. It is a simple matter of registration.

Two; unless BRONZ is in a strong financial position that is unlikely to happen and if it did ACC would offer counter arguments, that the politicians would more likely to listen too. Reason and common sense is not always applicable to Party Policy. Potential voters are

Three; again not likely as we are too small a group to register on the wave of public opinion.


Mention BRONZ and the first thing that comes to mind on a national level is ACC levies. They have been flogging that for as long as I have been riding to no success. It’s almost become their battle cry to rally the troops. Well I for one need another one.

Now don’t get me wrong. I’m all for Cyber information and getting it out and to build up numbers and membership. But take it from me, you may get some enthuisasm here but within the general biker community as a whole that war cry sounds hollow. BRONZ needs a new one and what ever it is, if it is to get the polictical ear, it has to include all road users……………..not just bikers.

I wish you well…………………..it’s a long ride you’re into and once you leave the rank and file they might not let you come back. That's the price you pay for leadership.


Skyryder

[Big Dave]

[QUOTE=Skyryder]

the general biker community as a whole that war cry sounds hollow. BRONZ needs a new one and what ever it is, if it is to get the polictical ear, it has to include all road users……………..not just bikers.

I wish you well…………………..it’s a long ride you’re into and once you leave the rank and file they might not let you come back. That's the price you pay for leadership.


Skyryder

It's not original - but it works: 'Let those who ride decide'.

And mate, when someone shows me a better plan this correspondent will shove the Julius Marlow size 12 back in the gob and happily tag along.

I think everyone agrees - motorcyclists need a spokesperson, sponsor, patron or a champion figure to rally behind. Just on things like the motorway bus lanes - where the system must be flawed to allow such folly.

I'm not the man for the job - I have the attention span of a gnat, no real understanding of law, and a broad Australian accent. Hardly Che Guevara.

[Big Dave]

what about Crocks?

I've seen one around colemans!

[Skyryder]

Folly? Ever driven a bus? I have. I stay away from bus lanes. I know how dangerous they are to bikers.

I agree that a respected spokesman is missing from the biker community. Does BRONZ have a patron?

Skyryder

[Big Dave]

Folly? Ever driven a bus? I have. I stay away from bus lanes. I know how dangerous they are to bikers.

I agree that a respected spokesman is missing from the biker community. Does BRONZ have a patron?

Skyryder

On the straight and unencumbered parts of the Akl motorways it is folly when as an alternative we lane split through a 3' gap of slow moving vehicles - whilst a viable lane remains 95% empty.

no - we're looking.

suggestion or volunteers welcome.