radar detectors

[wkid_one]

That'll be the new TUI ads...... YEAH RIGHT
(as my 3 previous 'convictions' have attested)

I must agree - it seems many of the HWP guy seem to enjoy their new found power of no tolerance - or is it just me? My example of wankeryness.

Is was driving down the Himatangi Straight at 7am on a Saturday Morning in summer, bloody warm, blue sky - maximum visability. I pass the only car on my side of the road for the last 10 mins at about 120kph and am throttling back to 110-115kph rather than braking. Lo and behold and HWP is coming the other way and I think nothing of it. Next min he is up my date and I pull over. I get ticketed for 114kph? Where does that fit in to 'tolerance' model? I would hardly call my speed a risk given the circumstances and environment. I still maintain I was pulled coz I was on a bike and it was loud.

In saying that - I have been lasered at over 110kph and not been pulled a number of times - down the Gorge to Porirua a couple of times, and by the guy that hides in the entrance to Belmont and lasers south bound traffic.

[RiderInBlack]

The only "detector" I use is the "Kiwi Flash The Lights" detector. Have found the heavy braking works well. Got done for 116KPH in a 100KPH zone on a RF900 when both the cop and I knew that I had been going a lot faster (the big nose dive is a dead give-away), but the radar had only been able to lock me at 116KPH. Because I took the ticket well and didn't give him any shit the ticket stayed at 116KPH. Had I been an arse-hole or had a radar detector he could have done me for a lot more.

I believe if you do the crime you do the time. For all the pathetic tickets I have got, I try to remember that there have been a lot of times that they should have stopped me as I have been going a lot faster (some of my home back roads have seen me at 240KPH+).

If you use a detector don't insult the Officer"s intelligence by pretending innocents.

We are luck they don't try to apply special speed restrictions to corners! I've have been on a lot of rides where the speeds we are doing around the corners would not be considered "safe" even if we were doing less than 100KPH (and have seen a number of near, and not so near, misses because of that)!

Sure, brake the rules and cheat the system, but don't bitch when you get done. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. So what your've got a fine or lost your licience, Big deal. Your alive and have not killed anyone (yet).

[Racey Rider]

.... Lo and behold and HWP is coming the other way and I think nothing of it. Next min he is up my date and I pull over. I get ticketed for 114kph? Where does that fit in to 'tolerance' model? I would hardly call my speed a risk given the circumstances and environment. I still maintain I was pulled coz I was on a bike and it was loud.

But do they see your Radar Detector when they pull you over, or do you quickly remove and hide it before the man walk's up?

[Marmoot]

I did not use detector,
I did not argue,
and the situation is what you (and even Spudchucka) consider as Safe.
Yet I have ticket.

Where is the warning you guys talked about then?
I guess not.

Not that I whine....but what p1$$ me off is that they can spend so many HWP and laser guns yet they still complain about understaffing and took 2 days for turning up at my house for burglary.
What is the understaffing about? Specific to only traffic?

Oh well, let's not get on to this matter again...it's endless isn't it?

Sorry for ranting.
Peace

[spudchucka]

In summary I am sorry for you cops, having to enforce a law and an approach to it, that you don't agree with, nor abide by at all times, yet its your stinking job and you get bad response from the public over it. Nobody would need radar detectors if the discretionary approach applied so that all reasonable drivers/riders would be OK.

Merv I understand everything you are saying. I don't really know what motivates guys to join the HP because to me it would be the most suckfull job imaginable but having said that I know heaps of guys on HP who are down right good buggers, (I know a few that are pricks as well though). When you join the police these days you have to accept that traffic duties are part of the job. However despite what the policies are each cop still has the ability to use discetion. I've explained what my personal opinions are towards speed enforcement and I try to encourage new cops to adopt a similar approach. At the end of the day it is up to the individual what approach they will take. Sadly there are some who join the job to "get off" on the power but these are the exception, not the rule.

As far as radar detectors go, I've never owned one because I've never seen a need for one. I've had two speeding tickets in 23 years and before my current occupation I was a rep who travelled 65 - 70,000 kms per year, not all at the speed limit. In the six years of doing that I had one speed camera fine when the cameras first came out. So I can't see the point of spending $$$$$ on something that won't solve a problem that I didn't have in the first place. If you understand my logic??

[spudchucka]

If good attitudes get a chest poke, what kind of poke does a shitty attitude get?

A good chest poke would only be used on someone with a developing attitude problem. And it is an expression, not a literal action taken as it would be an unnecessary use of force.

[White trash]

Merv I understand everything you are saying. I don't really know what motivates guys to join the HP because to me it would be the most suckfull job imaginable but having said that I know heaps of guys on HP who are down right good buggers, (I know a few that are pricks as well though). When you join the police these days you have to accept that traffic duties are part of the job. However despite what the policies are each cop still has the ability to use discetion. I've explained what my personal opinions are towards speed enforcement and I try to encourage new cops to adopt a similar approach. At the end of the day it is up to the individual what approach they will take. Sadly there are some who join the job to "get off" on the power but these are the exception, not the rule.

As far as radar detectors go, I've never owned one because I've never seen a need for one. I've had two speeding tickets in 23 years and before my current occupation I was a rep who travelled 65 - 70,000 kms per year, not all at the speed limit. In the six years of doing that I had one speed camera fine when the cameras first came out. So I can't see the point of spending $$$$$ on something that won't solve a problem that I didn't have in the first place. If you understand my logic??

I don't use a radar detector for a similar reason. If I am speeding, I'm breaking the law. If I'm silly enough to speed in an area and get caught, I deserved to get caught. I'm very philosophical about speeding tickets. I was doing wrong, so be it.

[spudchucka]

That'll be the new TUI ads...... YEAH RIGHT
(as my 3 previous 'convictions' have attested)

Did I have anything to do with your previous convictions? No. I've laid public my feelings on speed enforcement, if you think I'm talking shit thats fine.

[spudchucka]

Not that I whine....but what p1$$ me off is that they can spend so many HWP and laser guns yet they still complain about understaffing and took 2 days for turning up at my house for burglary.
What is the understaffing about? Specific to only traffic?
Peace

This pisses off general duties cops, (the ones that turn up when your house gets knocked over) as well. The traffic side of the police always get whatever resources and staff they need. They get shiney new S pack commodores when the GDB are driving clapped out hunks of junk with 250,000 on the clock, (I've seen some of these cars pink stickered because the cops driving them are so pissed off with the state of them). If they lose a staff member for any reason then someone from GDB is plucked to take their place, leaving the street cops even more short of staff.

The reason your house burglary took 2 days to be attended is because jobs get prioritised and the ones that are happening NOW get priority, an historic house burglary sadly gets shoved done the list. The only thing that will fix it is more staff on the front line.

[White trash]

The only thing that will fix it is more staff on the front line.

Right, that's it. I'm off to join the ol' Bill!

[Ghost Lemur]

Right, that's it. I'm off to join the ol' Bill!

You just want access to the evidence room.

[Marmoot]

if you think I'm talking shit thats fine.

Thank you for understanding.

The reason your house burglary took 2 days to be attended is because jobs get prioritised

Exactly my point. Why in the hell do government prioritise Laser-gunning more than burglary? Why the heck they not put 12 more patrol cars for the beat every year? Why the heck do the traffic got all the advertisement glits of those HP cars rolling out of the garage? How many millions spent in traffic enforcement and how many millions spent for crime prosecution? Oh....that's right.....traffic enforcement is a good-return investment while crime prosecution is a 'rather' lost-cause.

In the end, I know it's not the cops to blame. It's the friggin government policies. At the end of the day, I must say: damn politicians.

[merv]

Right, that's it. I'm off to join the ol' Bill!

You could be round there in a shot on ya stunt bike! To the burglary that is.

[merv]

p.s. never owned a radar detector or tried one myself.

[Two Smoker]

If good attitudes get a chest poke, what kind of poke does a shitty attitude get?

The good old smack in the face........ hehehehe, which they deserve if they have shitty attitude......

Ive always been told and carry out the saying "treat people they way you want to be treated".... if i was a cop, and a person started swearing at me, i would keep professional, but even the boundries can be pushed with that, i think that generally if a shitty attitude is given, then more tickets are the return (ie the chest poke is more tickets), thats from what ive heard..........