Splitting Q

[MikeyG]

Back when I did my license passing on the left was illegal unless the vehicle in frount is indicating a right turn. This would make it illegal for a cyclist to go up the inside at the lights no matter if the traffic is stationary or not.

[Badcat]

Also the cyclist action groups are VERY vociferous and very united, and VERY VERY stroppy. Unlike biker groups who are quiet , timid, and completly dis-united.

The cyclists speak very loudly and with one voice at anything that offends them We, on the other hand just argue amongst ourselves and meekly take whatever is dished out to us.

this is a really good point - think of all the cycle lanes that have been provided (the one along the western motorway in AK comes to mind).
do WE get any of these facilities?
no way.
and pushbikes don't even contribute via registration costs or tax on gas!
another PC Date-rape where our dollars subsidise hippies.

arrrgh.

[Lou Girardin]

Thing is , they don't have licences. And the law about the cop being able to detain them to establish identity doesn't apply. So I guess the cops figure that unless it's really blatant their options are limited. Having no licence to be lifted does empower one.

.

Yes he can, the same as he can for pedestrians.

[Lou Girardin]

The only instance where the cyclist may of been wrong where it was mentioned by Hellraiser is with the running of a red light. Then again there are a lot of variables that could make that action legal.

Like to name one?

[Edbear]

Unlike biker groups who are quiet , timid, and completly dis-united.

Sounds like KB....

[SwanTiger]

Like to name one?

Go for a ride/drive around Devonport and you'll see what I mean.

They love lycra poofs out here.

[ManDownUnder]

I did a search on splitting and as expected there was lots to read and lots of different views. The one thing i didn't get answered was why do we get picked on by the boy/gals in blue and cyclists don't?

On my way to work every morning i see them riding up the left and even running red lights some times in the full view of cops.

err - we get picked on?

I don't! I ride past them most days - the full length of the North Western MW sometimes... (15kms?)

Me thinks it's the hoons that get pulled over - and that wouldn't matter too much if it was motorbcycle, pushbcycle or donkey kart.

[Lou Girardin]

Go for a ride/drive around Devonport and you'll see what I mean.

They love lycra poofs out here.

Is being a lycra clad poof a defence to breaching red lights?
If they extend that to motorcyclists this site will become kiwi bi-ker.

[Lou Girardin]

Me thinks it's the hoons that get pulled over - and that wouldn't matter too much if it was motorbcycle, pushbcycle or donkey kart.

I had to sell mine.
I felt such an ass in it.

[ManDownUnder]

I had to sell mine.
I felt such an ass in it.

So it was YOU grabbing my butt. Dammit man - you didn't even tell me your number!

I feel so cheap!

[sunhuntin]

i agree, they should have to be registered and know the road rules.
the number of intermediate aged and up idiots on the roads....they dont know the road rules....run red lights, come flying down driveways into the line of traffic, dont give way, and expect you to be able to stop in the blink of an eye. or else they hear you coming and swerve out towards you....deliberatly.
even the school aged peds step out on purpose. i had a kid pretend to run in front of me on a corner...so i swerved very sharply towards him and gave him a hell of a fright.
never mind policing rtaffic speed around schools, police the students who do dangerous acts, get themselves injured and then blame the driver.

[Felicks]

Speaking of butts - there is the odd time when its good to have cyclists on the road (see attachment).

But seriously, each has their own view, Police and public alike. Personally I ride push bikes as well as motorised ones. And yes - I've nearly been collected on several occassions by cages. However I'm one of those who actually abide by red lights and use the right side of the road and not the footpath etc. My occupation probaby has a little to do with it but law aside, its just plain courteous.

As Lou has said, the rules do apply to cyclists - they face $150 for running a red or amber for that matter, just like cages. And while working, I do use some healthy discretion with both motorcyclists and pedal pushers. Personally I think pedal pushers get away with far too much and ought to be ticketed more however its a case of where you draw the line. Some things just take priority over others.

All of the road rules physically just can't be enforced by the Police as we would never get from A - B doing real work (like attending burglaries). Being realistic we probably would not even make it out of one street if we stopped (let alone ticketed), every road user committing an offence!

[justsomeguy]

Most cyclists only split at such low speeds most of us would call it filtering. They are usually not that dangerous as they have more to lose and can't out accelerate traffic to the next gap to split through like we can.

Motorcyclists on the other hand can and do lanesplit at whatever speed they choose, sometimes even at twice the speed of smoothly flowing traffic - that's dangerous riding, blah, blah.

[ZeroIndex]

hahaha, ..in the latest government appeal, bicycle riders will now have to be issued with a licence, and can be ticketed for speeding/reckless riding, can be issued with demerit points, worst case scenario, the bicycle could be impounded, and the riders licence could be taken away for 2 minutes P/T

[James Deuce]

$150 for running a red? Pathetic. It should be $2000000., or a 70 year jail sentence. That might stop it from happening.