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[Kwaka-Kid]

hell yeah wkid one!

or have you just tried... shorts only? no shirt, no footwear :P bahaha cold as hell! and gear lever hurts ur big toe after not too many changes!

and yeah i got those gloves too, i got about 20x pairs of gloves, not mine tho, my old mans, but i gotta pair with kevlar thick padding on all fingures, but i find they are a)restrictive a tiny bit, but mostly b) so hot and i cant feel the biker properly thru them, i.e the throttle/brake etc.

 

anyways hope to see yall

[wkid_one]

Technics put out a wicked armoured mesh vest - gr8 for summer $289, just wear a long sleeve shirt over top - no bulky jackets

I can't wear winter gloves, wear race gloves 100% of the time - like the feel!

[bluninja]

WKID like the feel of your race gloves huh? So do you rub em up and down your body rofl

I'm always amazed at the difference in throttle feel on bare skin as opposed to gloves, but I'll stick with my kangaroo palmed armoured gloves for riding on the road. I find boots you can feel through are a must....nothing worse than jamming on the rear break when you just wanted a bit of drag...or maybe slipping off the peg in a corner cos you didn't realise it was almost off the peg.

TTFN

[wkid_one]

Actually, with a bit of Glyde you'd be amazed the feeling of leather on bare skin!

[Coldkiwi]

I always knew VTR riders were a bit odd

There's plenty of awesome gear out there now anyway that is thin to allow good feel but also has excellent armour and protection through it. the nice people at Du Pont have done a wonderful thing in inventing kevlar for just such occasions!

And as for kangaroo leather.... sounds good to me even if it is just to wear the hide of the australian icon and have it suffer your injuries instead of your own skin!

[merv]

Talking about clothing, I spent some time in Wisconsin one year in July and the it was funny to see the state of undress of the bikers - jandals, shorts and singlets was about it and it was cool to see all the chickie babes with their butts high on the back of ZXR's, GSXR's, Blades etc wearing next to nothing.

But the thought of hitting the deck - ouch!!!

Just goes to show the American style of marking everything like making sure stickers on the bike tell you to preserve nature by wearing a helmet and protective gear has no effect. Just clutters the paint job of the bike.

I guess out here in general we are altogether more sensible and take care of ourselves and don't assume some lawyer will litigate for us if we have a crash. Though $20 mill would be nice if my jandals didn't protect my feet when I crashed and I could prove the shoe store never told me they wouldn't protect my feet f I crashed a motorcycle and nor did the manufacturer and nor did the bike maker tell me not to wear jandals etc etc.

[wkid_one]

Rather than collecting ACC levies in registration and petrol - why doesn't the goverment MANDATE minimum levels of safety gear.

Yes, safety gear in NZ needs to be certified CE or similar - YET IT IS NOT COMPULSORY to wear gloves, boots, jackets and trou for riding a bike - just the helmet.

Reason - head injuries, however what about spinal injuries etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Typical revenue collection attitude - ie we will recover the cost yet not take proactive action to remedy the route cause - BASTARDS

[bluninja]

WKID I empathise with your feelings, but at what stage does the government cross the line into serious personal rights abuse if it chooses the safety gear you must wear on a bike. Also, who is to say what comprises personal safety? Having protective gear on that protects you in an accident is great, but if the wearing of it (discomfort, heat, restricted movement) contributes to an accident it's not too good. Think of the extra cost all the gear manufactures will have to pass onto bikers as they now have to have everything tested and certified. Even then, how do you legislate for a prat that wears oversize, gloves, boots, helmets, and leathers?

And I think you have also said eloquently in another post that all this gear is designed for is low speed impacts, falls from bike, and slides. So the major smash, will result in serious injury or death. In fact compulsory safety gear may make people survive that might otherwise have died.....and serious injuries cost more to ACC than deaths. Thus better safety equipment could drive ACC up further.

It would be far simpler, and fairer if ACC levies were based on all the licensed vehicles on the road. All types of vehicle (with the exception of bicycle-bicycle, bicycle-pedestrian) are involved in accidents. So since ACC is universal and not based on liability, then all vehicles should share the burden for road injuries and deaths, not just one group of vunerable road users.

TTFN

PS can you imagine having car drivers wear helmets, chest protectors, protective boots, and neck braces to reduce their injury rate as a compulsary measure.

[wkid_one]

That was my point exactly.........although sarcasm is lost in the printed word?!?!?

The above was actually a recommendation completed in an ACC review of motorcycle accidents.......

[bluninja]

Sarcasm is lost on me anyway....as for irony...

TTFN