"KBers are dicks"

[Str8 Jacket]

Not me.
I stand apart from all you other wankers.

You prefer to wank on your own?

Ive heard people say bad things about KB and thats cool, people say bad things about ME all the time, life still goes on... Life on KB is much like life in general you got the differing opinions, toys being thrown etc etc. But what some people dont realise is the friendships that are formed within KB and when things happen to other KBers people tend to band together. I hate people that judge things they no nothing about...

[idb]

You prefer to wank on your own?

Not necessarily, but the judge told me that was the way it has to be from now on.

[placidfemme]

Not necessarily, but the judge told me that was the way it has to be from now on.

lmao nice comeback

[inlinefour]

Not necessarily, but the judge told me that was the way it has to be from now on.

was going to bling ya but:

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.

good post.

[Str8 Jacket]

Its all good I blinged him. Very fast response!

[idb]

Why thangyou, thangyou very much.............

[Ixion]

I've been a member of KB for approx 1.5 years now, and I've noticed that nearly ever biker I've spoken to (not from KB) knows of KB and all think very poorly of our little group.

I've also noticed through all the bike shops I've dealth with in that time, that they also know of KB and again think poorly of us...

The most common comment I hear is "arrogant... speeders..." And along the lines of "My bike is bigger, faster, better and I'm the best rider" type attitudes.

They obviously do not know about me!

But I've found the most negative remarks are when "learners" are discussed and the types of peer (speeding) pressure put on the newbs when on rides, and the amount of crashes.

,,

Why do we have such a bad image to some people?

And yet, the learner rides organised by Messrs Gremlin and Weasel were models of propiety and good behaviour and sensible mentoring. As was the 250cc ride organised by Mr Swanny (well, one exception)

I think the "learner crashing" thing may be a self fulfilling prophecy. There are some learners whose idea of motorcycling is just "GOING REALLY FAST, MAN". These riders usually have a very inaccurate idea of their own capabilities, and often think that riding a bike fast is as easy as driving a car fast. They go out on rides with experienced fast riders. The latter will either be on bigger bikes than the learner, or the learner will be, illegally, on a bike bigger than he can manage anyway. The learner tries to keep up, and crashes.

Such learners do not want to go on learner rides at slow and sensible speeds with other newbies. They are "above that".

Hence the reputation. They would crash anyway, but KB rides give them a venue to do it.

I do not have a solution for this, and I think there may not be one. It may be a matter best left to Mr Darwin.

However , what is a pity is that there are seldom any "slow and cruisey" KB rides, where speeds are perhaps not quite "strictly legal", but are not at sprotsbike extremes.

Suitable for touring and crusier type persons, and "not quite learners".

It is easy to say, of course, "well, organise one then". But my observation is that such a ride will inevitable attract faster riders who then "set the pace" . And the slow relaxed ride turns very quickly into a flat out fang. Which is fine in itself, but defeats the purpose of the exercise.

So the only KB rides, apart from the "special case" of the learner rides, are indeed those notable for very high speeds, wheelies and pushing things to the limit. This is observed by "outsiders" and we have our reputation. KBers whose riding is not typical of that reputation are riding alone and are not therefore recognised as KBers - their ride is not a KB ride. So they never offset the reputation.

Once again, I do not think there is a solution. Unfortunately , KB is often judged by the KB rides, which in the eyes of some people have undesirable characteristics. Please note that *I* am not passing judgement one way or another on either KB riders or KB rides. I personally have no issue with speed as such . I am only pointing out what outsiders may think and see, and the reason for that reputation. It may be undeserved, but it is what others think. So do not flame me.

[Hitcher]

Not me.
I stand apart from all you other wankers.

Ahh. Truly sexually self-contained.

[Big Dave]

People think KB is all nerdy dicks - till they meet me - then they say - wow - 'insanely cool people' - must join.

[Big Dave]

So do not flame me.

*Sigh*, another of life's simple pleasures denied.

[scumdog]

Not me.
I stand apart from all you other wankers.

Flatulence has its negative aspect eh??

[Bonez]

Smorgen is actually a girl so now I feel more sorry for her. WM

Now who was it again that was making a dick of themselves?

[Rincewind]

Fair comments WT. KB has given me a new lease of life with bikes. After riding for 20 yrs. My riding was with an occasional mate on a bike or by myself. Riding with other similar minded bikers has really improved my enjoyment of bikes at the detriment of my bank balance.

I suppose as a group of bikers we may come accross to outsiders as a bit geeky at times, and maybe with a higher crash ratio. But I think that is largely because what we do is so transparent to others.

The best thing is having the sense of help never being far away and being able to share your passion with others. After all most guys are into their cars these days so our passion is a relative minority thing by comparison.

Nicely put! ...motorcyclists have alway's had a special camaradarie,it's almost like being part of an elite regiment recognised all over the world,the masses will never understand us because they just don't get it,maybe it should be compulsory for all people wishing to be free of the confines of gruesome public transport to learn to ride a motorcycle first !!! before progressing to the relativley safe environment of the crumple zone airbag protected sofa on four wheels...How good would that be... a process of natural selection would maybe breed a whole new breed of drivers....Hmmmm

[Indiana_Jones]

they think we're a bunch of wankers?

Those cunts can go toss themselves off with a hairy moose and lick the anal spoon of life.

-Indy

[Drum]

I couldnt give a fat rats what "other" people think. I'm not 15 years old and seeking the approval of people I dont even know (no offence to 15 year olds!).

When you're secure enough in your own abilities and accomplishments, other peoples opinions dont mean shit.