Red Bull wings clipped?

[imdying]

wont touch the stuff......contributed to a workmates death at the age of 19. he drank I think it was 7 bottles and it caused heart failure.

No, being a retard contributed to his death. It clearly states a recommended dosage, and caffine is still a substance you don't want too much of to quick last time I checked.


Asked about this, apparently the daily dosage was too high with the larger bottles. I'm like, 'but V has 330ml bottles!' Apparently since V isn't an international company, they've got different regulations to comply to. Or something like that... sounds plausible enough.

[poorbastard]

wont touch the stuff......contributed to a workmates death at the age of 19. he drank I think it was 7 bottles and it caused heart failure.

Im sure im not dead yet. No idea how 7 bottles of the stuff could kill anybody. I would often drink that much when pulling all nighters or drinking etc. It doesnt give me a buzz but if i dont have it I will fall asleep regardless.

[sAsLEX]

Interestingly, V is illegal to sell in the States.

can someone elaborate?

[Ixion]

V contains caffeine and a bunch of vitamins. Those things are regulated in some countries and not in others ie in the ones where they are regulated the product has to be registered with some authority. And the rules vary from country to country about how much is allowed of each thing.

V complies with the "rules" in NZ, Australia, UK and South Africa. In the States it would need to be registered with the FDA, which is a complex and expensive business, so it has never been done. Which is why it is not able to be sold there . That, and setting up a dirstribution network in the States is REAL expensive.

Other markets may also require registration, essentially V is a NZ and Oz drink.

There is a recommendation of a maximum of 2 cans daily. Though I drink about that much an hour.

The reason it keeps you awake is the caffeine, the caffeine and the vitamin B3 is why you feel you're heart is beating faster.

Disclaimer: Comment is personal opinion only and does not reflect anything official .

[skelstar]

A flatmate reckoned that V is doing bloody well in UK as there is little competition. Sounds about right Ix?

[Squeak the Rat]

Im sure im not dead yet. No idea how 7 bottles of the stuff could kill anybody. I would often drink that much when pulling all nighters or drinking etc. It doesnt give me a buzz but if i dont have it I will fall asleep regardless.

Would have had a heart condition or a similar weakness. Caffeine puts a strain on the heart (as do party pills, speed, methamphetamine etc).

The issue with drinking V or Red Bull with alcohol is that booze is a depressant, and caffeine is a stimulant. One is trying to slow your body down and the other is trying to speed it up. This puts a lot of strain on your heart especially. If you're healthy no probs, if you have a history of heart disease I wouldn't recommend too many vodka tequila red-bulls.....

[Ixion]

Competition is Red Bull. It's handled through an agent over there, it's not a major market.

For a NZ company to enter a mass consumption product into a big market like the UK or USA is pretty difficult. You have to make a committment in terms of manufacturing capacity, sales staff etc that is maybe 20 times the size of anything in NZ. And it's not somethign you can do on a "start small and grow big basis" for the mass amrket you have to go in boots and all. That means a big risk of taking your eyes off the ball nearer to home.

Manufacturing capacity is the biggest constraint, you can't increase it quickly or cheaply, and you definately can't back out later on.

[placidfemme]

Interestingly, V is illegal to sell in the States.

Why is that? They sell it in the UK...

[Ixion]

Because the manufacturers have not registered it with the FDA, the US Food and Drug Adminstration, the regulatory agency - like our Health Dept. Because they are not interested in the US market (at present at any rate)

[sAsLEX]

Why is that? They sell it in the UK...

like three posts up?! http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...5&postcount=34

[Colapop]

It's not as good as the original Red Bull from Sweden (?) I had a bottle of that when I was in Denmark a few (quite a few) years ago - didn't sleep for 2 days!!