The Kat's not well

[imdying]

Oh yeah, can you fit braided lines for your class of racing? If not, I've got some low expansion rubber hose which is the next best thing Definitely heaps better than the 20 year old ones

[F5 Dave]

Yeah & as I’ve said ditching that dodgy antidive system is worth about an inch of lever travel.

[Lou Girardin]

well in this case put the bloody air box lid back on

You didn't tell us that bit.

[dangerous]

Ok just a quick update, after last weekends racing the Kat has droped #2 again, well it comes and goes... so carbs out and looked at this week.

NOW I have had a problem with the starter of late... get this the starter sticks on... but if you turn the key off or kill switch it keeps on cranking... thers nothing I can do but wait till the batt dies as it takes too long to get at the battery to disconect it.

WTF do ya reckon thats about???

[imdying]

Faulty solenoid, or faulty starter button. Possibly the wiring in between, but seeing as those are mechanical, I'd look at them first.

[Flyingpony]

WTF do ya reckon thats about???

2nd imdying suggestion.
There's always the potential of water in the electrics.

Hey D, is the Kat old enough to be fortunate enough to have a kick start option?

[Ixion]

Starter "stuck" will be solenoid. Switch would stop on turning the key off.

The main terminals of the starter solenoid connect the battery direct to the starter. If the spring which disengages the contacts once the armature is non energised fails, or the contacts themself become damaged the solenoid may stick.

This can be caused by using the starter for too long a period at a time. The prolonged use causes the contacts to overheat and become rough and pitted due to the surfaces partially welding together. Thenceforth, they do not make good contact because of the rough surface - which means the surrent has a smaller area to pass through, which means local oveheating, and so the cycle continues.

[imdying]

This can be caused by using the starter for too long a period at a time.

It's a Suzuki, so this is more than likely.

[dangerous]

Starter "stuck" will be solenoid. Switch would stop on turning the key off.

So like the key is off and in my pocket and the kill switch is off... yet it turns over wildly like a haunted shit house??? solenoid huh???
Cheers I

[Ixion]

Yep. Look at the battery. There will be a thick wire that goes direct to the solenoid. And a thin wire also at the solenoid. And a thick wire from the solenoid to the starter. In the solenoid are two big copper contacts. And a electromagnet. The thin wire is supplied with electricity through the ignition switch ,kill switch and starter switch. When all of those are on, electricity flows through that thin wire to the solenoid, energising the electromagnet. That magnet shoves the two big contacts together. They connect the two big wires together. One big wire direct to battery , no switches in there , other big wire direct to starter motor.

Normally , you turn one of those switches off, no electricty to little wire, no magnet, contacts are pushed apart by a spring, no connection through the thick wires.
But -- if those contacts stay stuck together? They don't care now if there's any current int he little wire. They're going to connect the thick wires come what may. Battery direct to starter motor.

[orangeback]

sell it to me cheep , and ill put a gsxr donk in it

[dangerous]

sell it to me cheep , and ill put a gsxr donk in it

no way man, its to much fun... hey I see theres 3 Kats on bike point OZ at the mo 2 have Gixer power plants in em.

[paturoa]

So what was the go with the kat running on 3 pots for your invergiggle trip?

[paturoa]

scratch that, just read the thread and saw your response there

[Flyingpony]

So like the key is off and in my pocket and the kill switch is off... yet it turns over wildly like a haunted shit house??? solenoid huh???
Cheers I

Have you ever removed a starter motor from a car with the battery still connected, start motor still wired up and the ignition key located far away on the kitchen table?

Produces a massive spinster moment in your hands and your pants when it suddenly comes alive after accidently touching something metal on the solenoid points!

Ixion is right.