zxr 250 zxr 400 gsx r 600

**Two Smoker** · 16th May 2006, 09:14

Originally Posted by mynameis

You bastard ! You race on F3 aye !! Grr thats why you picking on me !! lol .. dood better come out riding with us someday mate !

show us all the skills aye ! :P:P

Im too slow.... and at the moment too broken... but as i said, im not commenting anymore till i see chicken strips...

**R6_kid:Me** · 16th May 2006, 09:35

I was told by the people i ride with that i was 'ready' for a bigger bike. Now i have to say im a bit crazy on the open road as a opposed to 'fast' but there is no doubt i could throw my 250 around, but to be honest thats easy compared to a bigger bike. Come out for a ride with N4CR and myself (he's on a 250C aswell) and if your pace is similar then you are probably alright to step up to a bigger bike as far as skill is concerned.

I've its that you want more speed in the straights then go for a 400, if you can ride the tyres off of it you will have no trouble beating a 600, perhaps you need to find some twistier roads because a 250 should piss all over a 600 in really tight stuff.

Speaking from experience a 600 is not really comparable to a 250 at all. There isn't usually that much more weight (eg. ZXR250A, which i previously had was 170kg wet, R6 is 188kg wet) and the power is 3-4 times what the ZXR had. This means you end up coming into corners a lot faster than you are used to and it takes a while to get the hang of it before your pace will be anything like it was.

If you really want feed back on whether you are 'ready' then it's best to go out on a ride, see where you are without trying too hard, and then see what people say on here when the ride is over.

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 11:04

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

Im too slow.... and at the moment too broken... but as i said, im not commenting anymore till i see chicken strips...

Lol so you're a broken ass these days ? :P Nah mate hope fully you recover soon and get back on aye. What you mean "Chicken strips"

**Two Smoker** · 16th May 2006, 11:11

Originally Posted by mynameis

Lol so you're a broken ass these days ? :P Nah mate hope fully you recover soon and get back on aye. What you mean "Chicken strips"

Cheers mate...

Chicken strips are the unused part of your tyre, the part where you havnt leaned over far enough resulting in a strip of rubber around the tyre that hasnt made contact to the road...

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 11:15

Originally Posted by gareth_d

I was told by the people i ride with that i was 'ready' for a bigger bike. Now i have to say im a bit crazy on the open road as a opposed to 'fast' but there is no doubt i could throw my 250 around, but to be honest thats easy compared to a bigger bike. Come out for a ride with N4CR and myself (he's on a 250C aswell) and if your pace is similar then you are probably alright to step up to a bigger bike as far as skill is concerned.

I've its that you want more speed in the straights then go for a 400, if you can ride the tyres off of it you will have no trouble beating a 600, perhaps you need to find some twistier roads because a 250 should piss all over a 600 in really tight stuff.

Speaking from experience a 600 is not really comparable to a 250 at all. There isn't usually that much more weight (eg. ZXR250A, which i previously had was 170kg wet, R6 is 188kg wet) and the power is 3-4 times what the ZXR had. This means you end up coming into corners a lot faster than you are used to and it takes a while to get the hang of it before your pace will be anything like it was.

If you really want feed back on whether you are 'ready' then it's best to go out on a ride, see where you are without trying too hard, and then see what people say on here when the ride is over.

Tru tru dood you live on the shore aye ? I think you know my mate Adam ? We both work for Telecom and both have ZXR 250's we go riding often aye.

Well yes I know if I get a bigger bike I am bound to clock it very soon after, otherwise I wont settle lol..as for the 250 goes .. I still cant touch the ground with my knee aye so yeah .. getting there .. but other wise I dont have any other probs. We ususally ride around albany village coatsville back area windy roads there.

Would definitely love to get some feedback around that area and get someone to assess my riding aye wud be awesome! Cheers bud

**Karma** · 16th May 2006, 12:16

Originally Posted by mynameis

We both work for Telecom and both have ZXR 250's

Where abouts?

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 14:18

Originally Posted by Weasel

Where abouts?

Um Xtra Business Sales how about you ?

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 14:18

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

Cheers mate...

Chicken strips are the unused part of your tyre, the part where you havnt leaned over far enough resulting in a strip of rubber around the tyre that hasnt made contact to the road...

Aaah sure blady hell lol eheh coming your way soon dont worry !

No hammering me to hard tho give me a fair comment

**Karma** · 16th May 2006, 15:35

Originally Posted by mynameis

Um Xtra Business Sales how about you ?

Tech support...

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 16:19

Originally Posted by Weasel

Tech support...

Aaah you have that green ZXR 400 parked at the bottom aye ? Small world lol..eheh but do you have one green rim and one black or wot ?

**Karma** · 16th May 2006, 16:26

Yeh that's me... the rim wasn't supposed to be black! Gave it a clean this morning and they're both green now

**mynameis** · 16th May 2006, 17:52

Ok can anyone please give me more info on common 400's like ZXR 400 CBR 400 VFR 400 RVF 400 GSXR 400 or any other ones out there.

Who owns them and pro's and cons of the bikes eg. common probs with bikes, how hard would it be to find spare parts ect .. ? Any reviews online about them (Web Links), specs ect..production dates and ones available in NZ.

And most of all which 400 to get and why

**Karma** · 16th May 2006, 18:00

Well you've seen mine.

The ZXR 400s are great little bikes, very hard to find cheap parts for, and not particularly comfortable over any long distance.

But they look the part, and go fairly fast, so that's good enough for me.

**Two Smoker** · 16th May 2006, 18:06

I would look at a:

-ZXR400: Common bike, very strong motor (cam chain can be a problem) and has the most room... Stock it is the most powerful, but is slightly on the weighty side...

-VFR400 (NC30): Huge midrange power making it awesome for road riding. Not as much power as the ZXR but it is lighter in weight. Biggest con is it generally has a 18 inch rear rim making it a bitch to get good rubber for it...and it doesnt have alot of leg room (more than a 250 though)

-RVF400 (NC35): Slightly less power than the NC30 (very marginal though) biggest pro over the NC30 is that it has a 17 inch rear rim and its newer...

Biggest deciding factor... Licence.... After buying a brand new K5 GSX-R600, and crashing it on some oil mid corner... then spending 10 grand and 11 months fixing it because i only had a restricted licence... I would definately have a full licence and full insurance (if i did it again)

HP does not make you faster... To be fast you first have to be slow, and to get faster you have to be smooth and learn how to blend your braking, countersteering and throttle control into one (aswell as corner judgement) Thus it is possible to go faster and better than someone with moderate skills on a bigger bike.

But if the upgrade is really wanted. 400 is the best next step. 0-100kmh in just over 4 seconds, high 12 second 1/4 mile times and a top speed of about 220kmh...

**limbimtimwim** · 16th May 2006, 19:10

In addition to what Two Smoker said:

The RVF I find it comfortable to ride all day as long as long as the roads have corners. If the road doesn't have corners, my legs fall asleap in the most horrible way. The clutch feels fine, but work it all day, every day, for over a week and you'll be going to sleep wincing in pain from your fucked left arm. If you get one, learn to clutchless as soon as your can an get into the habit. The gearbox is co-operatative to this sort of use once your get used to it. You go faster like that too.

Used parts are expensive and hardish to find. New parts don't seem to be a problem, but hold onto something firm when someone quotes your a price.